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San Francisco is the number 1 unserved destination of Indians. By a margin of 2-to-1 over 2nd place LA.
Top Destinations by the number of Daily Passengers Originating in India with no Direct Flights
San Francisco 620
Los Angeles 296
Milan 273
Washington DC 237
Vancouver 232 Business Standard
Flying to India from the west coast is a bit different than flying to India from the mid west or east coast. The reason is that it's the same distance flying east or west from the west coast to India so you have competition from both European and Asian airlines as well as the ME2 carriers.
I have always felt that foreign flagcarrier's is a true indication on how much demand your city is to the rest of the world. Currently there are only three cities in the US that offer nonstop flights to the cities you indicated on foreign metal all year round. NY, LA, SF and soon to be BOS in May 2015.
Some cities like Dallas and Atlanta have flights on US carriers to those destinations due to being large airline hub cities.
- New York: London, Paris, Tokyo, Hong Kong
- Toronto: London, Paris, Tokyo, Hong Kong
- Los Angeles: London, Paris, Tokyo, Hong Kong
- Chicago: London, Paris, Tokyo, Hong Kong
- San Francisco: London, Paris, Tokyo, Hong Kong
- Vancouver: London, Paris, Tokyo, Hong Kong
- Dallas/Fort Worth: London, Paris, Tokyo, Hong Kong
- Boston: London, Paris, Tokyo, Hong Kong
- Seattle: London, Paris, Tokyo, Hong Kong
- Houston: London, Paris, Tokyo
- Atlanta: London, Paris, Tokyo
- Washington, D.C.: London, Paris, Tokyo
- Mexico City: London, Paris, Tokyo
- Detroit: London, Paris, Tokyo
- Minneapolis: London, Paris, Tokyo
- Miami: London and Paris
- Denver: London and Tokyo
- San Diego: London and Tokyo
- Philadelphia: London and Paris
- Montreal: London and Paris
No Paris for San Diego and Denver? Miami should be getting Tokyo (Narita) soon. Kind of want Haneda but Narita is the international gateway of Japan.
I know Denver is working on more non-stop overseas flights. I thought I heard China mentioned? There is also a daily non-stop to Reykjavic, Iceland on Icelandic.
The joke around our office is that Logan gets a direct flight to a major foreign hub whenever someone high up enough in the country (or the airline) has a kid going to college here.
Tokyo is more rare. But even the mid-size cities in America will have nonstop flights to London and/or Paris. Even if you're on the West coast, there'll be a nonstop to London.
Tokyo is more rare. But even the mid-size cities in America will have nonstop flights to London and/or Paris. Even if you're on the West coast, there'll be a nonstop to London.
Agree. Once we get into the discussion about secondary European cities it's usually only the big four or five international US cities that cover those smaller secondaries European cities.
Tokyo is more rare. But even the mid-size cities in America will have nonstop flights to London and/or Paris. Even if you're on the West coast, there'll be a nonstop to London.
Tokyo is the most common Asian city to expand into North America though. I mean even with a place like Miami that is only 1.9% Asian in it's entire metropolitan area with little to no Japanese population at all, Tokyo will be the first (and possibly only) city of Asia expanding here.
Tokyo has been VERY aggressive in expanding to overseas markets too and as 2020 draws closer, we'll see even more of that.
It's been in discussion for many years about MIA-NRT. If this route does materialize it will be on American metal. JAL is not in the business of flying ultra long haul flights with questionable yields (MIA). The expansion of Asia service from DFW further diminishes any chance Miami of getting an Asian flight in the near future
It's been in discussion for many years about MIA-NRT. If this route does materialize it will be on American metal. JAL is not in the business of flying ultra long haul flights with questionable yields (MIA). The expansion of Asia service from DFW further diminishes any chance Miami of getting an Asian flight in the near future
That's fine. We have enough foreign flag carriers (I am sure you are aware). I just want it to materialize. Not for bragging rights but because Tokyo is my second favorite city on planet Earth and to not have a connection to it is an absurdity.
I don't like connecting through other places, makes me feel like my city is deficient, makes me feel low. I want our own connection, no more connecting through Atlanta, no more.
I think Tokyo will do it, they've been studying the Miami market for years now (similar to how India has been studying CA and TX). Tokyo will be going gangbusters in regards to expansions anyhow, they have a big 2020 coming up, all of the world's eyes will be on them and they will aggressively expand in the Western Hemisphere. Cannot imagine a lot of cities being ahead of Miami for a route.
Fun fact: The distance and flying time from San Diego to either Tokyo or London is almost identical (about 75 miles further to Tokyo). Goes to show how truly enormous the Pacific Ocean is and how calling the Atlantic "The Pond" is not so much of a stretch.
Tokyo is the most common Asian city to expand into North America though. I mean even with a place like Miami that is only 1.9% Asian in it's entire metropolitan area with little to no Japanese population at all, Tokyo will be the first (and possibly only) city of Asia expanding here.
In keeping with original post (HNL and Guam not counted)
Flights to North America from Tokyo Narita
American Airlines: Los Angeles , Chicago-O'Hare, Dallas/Fort Worth,
United Airlines: Los Angeles, Chicago-O'Hare, Denver, Houston-Intercontinental, Newark, San Francisco,
Washington-Dulles
Delta Air Lines: Los Angeles, Atlanta, Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul, New York-JFK, Portland (OR), Seattle/Tacoma
All Nippon Airways: Los Angeles, Houston-Intercontinental (begins 12 June 2015), New York-JFK, San Francisco, San Jose (CA), Seattle/Tacoma, Washington-Dulles
Japan Airlines: Los Angeles, Boston, Chicago-O'Hare, New York-JFK, San Diego, Vancouver
Singapore Airlines: Los Angeles
These so called Fifth freedom allows an airline to carry revenue traffic between foreign countries as a part of services connecting the airline's own country. The use of the 5th freedom has become more pronounced in recent years with Singapore Airlines flight from NRT to LAX. Emirates plans to make extensive use of 5th freedom flights between Europe and Northern America.
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