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Old 12-14-2015, 08:03 AM
 
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If it ain't Boeing I ain't going.
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Old 12-14-2015, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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If it ain't Boeing I ain't going.
Then you aren't flying much anymore! All of the US3 ordered the A350, Delta ordered the A330 NEO, and I believe DL and AA ordered the A320 NEO series as well.

Stupid phrase from stupid people
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Old 12-14-2015, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Somewhere in America
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"...it taxed, picked up speed — and then came to a startling and screeching halt."

I know I expect too much out of modern journalism, but do they even try anymore?

I assume they are saying the plane was taxiing and then picked up speed. Over-hyped issue nonetheless.
I was wondering how much it was taxed. Must have been steep for the plane to stop within a few hundred feet!
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Old 12-14-2015, 05:08 PM
 
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Then you aren't flying much anymore! All of the US3 ordered the A350, Delta ordered the A330 NEO, and I believe DL and AA ordered the A320 NEO series as well.

Stupid phrase from stupid people
Not especially.

I travel in my PA-31T. Haven't stepped foot in an airliner in years. Getting molested by TSA, slave to airline schedule and hub and spoke system; crammed in like cattle and sharing my seat with some 300 lb behemoth and my luggage getting lost; you can have that experience.

So again, if it ain't Boeing, I ain't going. (If I had the misfortune to fly on the airlines).
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Old 12-14-2015, 05:25 PM
 
Location: Woodinville
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"...it taxed, picked up speed — and then came to a startling and screeching halt."

I know I expect too much out of modern journalism, but do they even try anymore?

I assume they are saying the plane was taxiing and then picked up speed. Over-hyped issue nonetheless.
Yahoo has never, EVER been anywhere near respectable journalism. If you were around for the Chris Chase era you'd know this.
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Old 12-14-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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Yahoo has never, EVER been anywhere near respectable journalism. If you were around for the Chris Chase era you'd know this.
Yahoo citing the Daily Mail citing a blogger, that's like multiplying zeroes. Sounds like Qatar Airlines - who own and operate the aircraft in question - had their head PR man say something that at least kept the airline from having to shoulder blame.

Runway overruns happen, and they're at best expensive, at worst dangerous.

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If it ain't Boeing I ain't going.
You may want to check the airline as well. Ironically, Qatar pilots - in a Boeing 777 with no sissy computerized systems - had a an actual runway overrun in september, leading to a damaged aircraft and runway equipment.

Qatar issues alarming report about QR flight | Plane Talking
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Old 12-14-2015, 06:20 PM
 
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But aren't too many inelegant or flawed aircraft designs rendered 'airworthy', at enormous expense, by computer programming &c?
Nah. Modern airliners are very well engineered and extremely well-built. Look at the Hudson landing, or the Gimli Glider. If you want to look at risk factors, it's not the planes as the roll off the assembly line, it's how well they're maintained through years and decades.

Computerization helps with human errors - like the Airbus system that keeps tabs on runway length (in front of the plane - runway behind you is one the less useful assets in aviation), airspeed, wing configuration etc. etc. and warns pilots if they attend to land in a dangerous situation.

And computerization helps with efficiency. When cruising, the computers keep tabs on hundreds of data inputs and keeps the plane moving through the air as cleanly as possible, which may cut the last 0.5% of the fuel usage, and that matters.

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And isn't a solution to begin with one that requires no such-thing, unless, as a bonus?
Meh. Flying in a modern airliner means being dependent on dozens if not hundreds of systems working correctly - now some of these systems are software, not electrical or mechanical or hydraulic.

I'll be interested in learning what happened here.
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Old 12-14-2015, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Metro Washington DC
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Then you aren't flying much anymore! All of the US3 ordered the A350, Delta ordered the A330 NEO, and I believe DL and AA ordered the A320 NEO series as well.

Stupid phrase from stupid people
Have you forgotten all of the Boeing jets they fly?
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Old 12-15-2015, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Have you forgotten all of the Boeing jets they fly?
Which can be subbed in at any point in time, especially domestically. My United A320 route recently was subbed for a 737-900. People's aversion to a brand of airplane is beyond stupid. With the millions of flight hours flown each year, no one brand has any more issues or crashes than the other

As for the guy above, would you fly the 787 a few years ago with the battery fire problems? That's a Boeing.... It's called teething issues. Every airliner has them. 777 engine icing issues. Etc etc.
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Old 12-15-2015, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Sasquatch County
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I prefer not to travel in an Airbus plane much as trying to avoid 'flying' in one with aft-mounted engines. And I think that aircraft-type ought to be one of the options at booking a flight. Furthermore, I'd like to see some choice offered to those that work in the armed services, for no one should be made to aviate in, say, a Chinook helicopter or Eurofighter Typhoon

Gulf Air flight to London plunged into a terrifying 32,000ft dive after pressure loss | Daily Mail Online

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