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Here's an article about Boeing thinking about restarting the 767 passenger line (it's still being produced as a freighter) with a whole lot of comments and discussion.
Setting aside the economics of the 767 versus various other competing aircraft and the various missions that the 767 can or can't do or can or can't do as well or better than anyone else, I'm left with this thought: the 2-3-2 seating configuration in coach is the BEST I've ever seen in any plane. For that reason alone, I prefer the 767 over any other plane there is, for any flight anywhere.
So I'd love to see the 767 restarted. Here's hoping.
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Here's an article about Boeing thinking about restarting the 767 passenger line (it's still being produced as a freighter) with a whole lot of comments and discussion.
Setting aside the economics of the 767 versus various other competing aircraft and the various missions that the 767 can or can't do or can or can't do as well or better than anyone else, I'm left with this thought: the 2-3-2 seating configuration in coach is the BEST I've ever seen in any plane. For that reason alone, I prefer the 767 over any other plane there is, for any flight anywhere.
So I'd love to see the 767 restarted. Here's hoping.
Why was this model put out of production in the first place?? It fills a niche perfectly between 737/57/A320 single-aisle and the A-300/30/40 twin-aisles. Not to mention cockpit commonality with 57/77.
Well, its not out of production; still being build as a tanker, and I think FedEx may have some on order as a freighter. But its role in the passenger hauling business was supposed to be overtaken by the 787...
I'm pretty sure that the 767 is the cash-cow of Boeing's commercial business. I read somewhere that the 767-300ER is the highest margin commercial jet built by Boeing...
I'm pretty sure that the 767 is the cash-cow of Boeing's commercial business. I read somewhere that the 767-300ER is the highest margin commercial jet built by Boeing...
I'm sure that was the 777-300ER (829 orders and 758 deliveries). That plane is easily responsible for half of Boeing's profits
Even the smallest Dreamliner is more fuel efficient than the Boeing 767
Pounds of fuel per mile
1988 Test Boeing 767-300ER (19.1 -19.5 lb/miles)
1999 Test Boeing 767-400ER (20.5 -21.0 lb/miles)
2009 Test Boeing 787-8 (18.7 lb/miles)
The simple matter is that the B767 has a range over 5200 nautical miles. USA airlines cannot fill the planes going to Europe, so they can't take advantage of the extra space in the Dreamliner just to go to Europe. The size of the B767 makes them very profitable to operate as long as fuel costs remain low.
And people flying economy prefer the B767 as only 1 seat in 5 is a middle seat.
Dreamliners are used by United and American airlines primarily to make profitable runs to Asia and even Africa. Delta doesn't want any Dreamliners.
I'm sure that was the 777-300ER (829 orders and 758 deliveries). That plane is easily responsible for half of Boeing's profits
Well, I guess its hard to say for sure, but keep in mind, the NRE for the 767 was all paid back in the early eighties, so I would have to think that sales now are pure gravy, vs. the 777-300ER, which has had some more recent R&D investment. But yes, I'm sure both are profitable aircraft...
A revived passenger 767 could play the same role for Boeing that the A330neo does for Airbus... don't need the 787's capabilities? Order a (less expensive) 767. In 200 size, it might also be the closest replacement for the 757.
Here's an article about Boeing thinking about restarting the 767 passenger line (it's still being produced as a freighter) with a whole lot of comments and discussion.
Setting aside the economics of the 767 versus various other competing aircraft and the various missions that the 767 can or can't do or can or can't do as well or better than anyone else, I'm left with this thought: the 2-3-2 seating configuration in coach is the BEST I've ever seen in any plane. For that reason alone, I prefer the 767 over any other plane there is, for any flight anywhere.
So I'd love to see the 767 restarted. Here's hoping.
The 2-3-2 cabin configuration is one of the things I like about the 767 also.
I am beginning to believe that there will never be a follow on to the B737. In ten years Boeing could be delivering 300 797s a year, and they may choose to drop out of the narrow body business entirely rather than compete with Comac, Mitsubushi, Embraer and Komsomolsk-on-Amur for the low margin jets.
Orders, deliveries and unfilled orders for 2016 by program are as follows:
But I think they will be producing 400-500 wide body aircraft in a decade.
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