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Old 10-29-2020, 09:05 PM
 
Location: Lawton,OK
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The Lockheed L-1011 is the only jet I know to have an S duct engine in the INVERTED T tail. The tail engine on the Douglas DC-10 is straight. The T Tail Boeing 727 has a S duct tail engine also. The 1011 is has the ugliest tail section of any commercial jetliner I've ever seen. The DC-10 is marginally not as ugly.

The Boeing 727 did a beautiful and elegant job with that middle S duct engine. Very slender and elegant. T tail jets lend themselves much better in styling for integrating a central engine into the vertical stab with a S duct. I don't know of a T tail jet that has a straight engine through the vertical stab.
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Old 10-30-2020, 04:57 AM
 
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I flew on L-1011 many years on a coast to coast trip. I remember it being a wide bodied jet.
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Old 10-30-2020, 02:47 PM
 
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I flew on L-1011 many years on a coast to coast trip. I remember it being a wide bodied jet.

The L-1011 and the DC-10/MD-11 were both wide bodies.
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Old 10-30-2020, 02:50 PM
 
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The Lockheed L-1011 is the only jet I know to have an S duct engine in the INVERTED T tail. The tail engine on the Douglas DC-10 is straight. The T Tail Boeing 727 has a S duct tail engine also. The 1011 is has the ugliest tail section of any commercial jetliner I've ever seen. The DC-10 is marginally not as ugly.

The Boeing 727 did a beautiful and elegant job with that middle S duct engine. Very slender and elegant. T tail jets lend themselves much better in styling for integrating a central engine into the vertical stab with a S duct. I don't know of a T tail jet that has a straight engine through the vertical stab.

'Inverted T-tail'? Isn'tthat a conventional tail? does a B-747 have an 'inverted T-tail'? There is no reason to invent new names for things just to make them seem special.
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Old 10-30-2020, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Lawton,OK
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'Inverted T-tail'? Isn'tthat a conventional tail? does a B-747 have an 'inverted T-tail'? There is no reason to invent new names for things just to make them seem special.
I did not know what else to call them. Non-T-tail? I'm just an amateur airplane buff and not a professional flyboy.I know the Beechcraft Bonanza once had that infamous V tail that was very dangerous. I'm a fan of T tails for aesthetics.
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Old 10-30-2020, 08:10 PM
 
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Jets with twin outboard rear engines and T tails are among the most elegant. The private/biz jets like Leer, Bombardier and Gulfstream have fuselages that are too short to make for a graceful aircraft. I do like the looks of Bombardier's longer-body regional commercial jets. I like the clean sleekness of long slender fuselages on jets with long tapering wings and tail stabs. Delta-wing planes are homely to my eyes too like the Concorde. That rocket or missile shape si waht makes my cut for aeronautical style. Those short squatty, stubby jets with fat bellies look something like a flying pregnant frog. I don't know of any "private jet" model that sports clean elegant lines like a commercial jetliner.
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Old 10-30-2020, 11:39 PM
 
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I did not know what else to call them. Non-T-tail? I'm just an amateur airplane buff and not a professional flyboy.I know the Beechcraft Bonanza once had that infamous V tail that was very dangerous. I'm a fan of T tails for aesthetics.
Those with the horizontal stabilizer mounted through the fuselage, are known as having a "conventional" tail, as that is the most common placement.
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Old 10-31-2020, 03:20 PM
 
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I miss seeing the 727. I lived by TIA less than a mile for 41 years and remember the 727's being about most out of all the planes i would see. Back in the late 60's early 70's it was 727's the loud screamer 707's and stretch DC8's i remember the most. When a 707 took off over my house you knew what it was. Then came the DC10's and LD11's in the early 70's and some rare to see 737's. By the 80's it was 737 that i saw the most.
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Old 11-01-2020, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Howard County, Maryland
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Those short squatty, stubby jets with fat bellies look something like a flying pregnant frog.
Reminds me of the Shorts 360, a.k.a. the "pregnant cow."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short_360
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Old 11-06-2020, 05:47 AM
 
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I remember the 727 from quite a few GA to NY round trips in the mid 80's going back and forth from parent to parent over summer vacation... sitting in the back near the engines was a little noisy...

... in 1990 I did a nonstop Atlanta to Honolulu on a Delta L-1011. I remember it and the tail engine and for being a 10 1/2 hr flight and watching a couple movies on the in cabin screen.
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