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I wonder how many people outside the Spurs huddle really thought that Pop would give it to the rookie Neal at the end of regulation...don't ever question Coach's manhood, for sure.
I wonder how many people outside the Spurs huddle really thought that Pop would give it to the rookie Neal at the end of regulation...don't ever question Coach's manhood, for sure.
game 1 was won by a "lucky", contested 3 by battier, game 3 was won by a lucky, contested, buzzer beating 3 by zack randolph, game 5 was won by a buzzer beater by gary neal. now out of those 3 shots which was "planned"? the neal shot surely was. its good coaching vs lucky shooting, eventually execution and good coaching can win.
Like I said before, the Spurs are still dangerous and the Grizz should apply the double-tap or risk getting an axe in the back like in some B slasher flick.
game 1 was won by a "lucky", contested 3 by battier, game 3 was won by a lucky, contested, buzzer beating 3 by zack randolph, game 5 was won by a buzzer beater by gary neal. now out of those 3 shots which was "planned"? the neal shot surely was. its good coaching vs lucky shooting, eventually execution and good coaching can win.
Are you suggesting that the Spurs should have won those games that were won on 'lucky' shots from the Grizz? It seems to me that the Grizz are very capable of matching the Spurs, in many cases Basketball is a 'lucky' bounce here and a 'lucky' bounce there.... if memory serves weren't the Grizz supposed to be decimated by San Antonio, out fishing with Kenny, Charles, and Ernie by now...?
yes the spurs should have won those games no doubt. with the exception of game 4 the spurs have not been outplayed in any way shape or form. the fact is that the spurs where in every one of those games to the very end except for a lucky bounce (much like the lucky bounce manu made last night). this series could very easily have been the other way. my point is in reference to the other posters point, pop called that play for neal 100% he trusted him and put it all on the line, with the 2 lucky shot/timings of the griz, those where not coaching decisions, they where not plays called they where nothing but luck of the draw. 75% of the time zack misses that 3, (maybe more then 75%), battier is a decent 3 shooter and his shot was less "lucky" then zack but thats the way it goes.
yes the spurs should have won those games no doubt. with the exception of game 4 the spurs have not been outplayed in any way shape or form. the fact is that the spurs where in every one of those games to the very end except for a lucky bounce (much like the lucky bounce manu made last night). this series could very easily have been the other way.
With all due respect, don't be delusional. The Grizz have matched the Spurs throughout this series. You want to talk about being in those games to the very end? The Grizz had the lead down to the last minute last night, kudos to the Spurs for pulling out in the end, but they very well could have lost last night. San Antonio was at home, and needed O.T to squeeze out a victory. And you've been noticeably demure as the Grizz took a 3-1 lead. Now they barely win last night and you're sticking out your chest like the Grizz have simply been 'lucky'? No, the Spurs should have taken care of business better than they have, which is why they're trailing in the series. Let me guess, Manu isn't 100% is your next excuse, right? Well Rudy Gay isn't playing PERIOD. If I recall the only blowout in the series so far is by Memphis 104-86 in game 4, I suppose that was luck too?
Take off the Black and silver glasses for a second and at least try to be objective. Last week you said the Spurs would decimate them. After it was proven that wasn't going to happen, all of a sudden you're singing a tune about the Grizz being one of the best defensive teams, yadda yadd yadda. At least be consistent in your views.
With all due respect, don't be delusional. The Grizz have matched the Spurs throughout this series. You want to talk about being in those games to the very end? The Grizz had the lead down to the last minute last night, kudos to the Spurs for pulling out in the end, but they very well could have lost last night. San Antonio was at home, and needed O.T to squeeze out a victory. And you've been noticeably demure as the Grizz took a 3-1 lead. Now they barely win last night and you're sticking out your chest like the Grizz have simply been 'lucky'? No, the Spurs should have taken care of business better than they have, which is why they're trailing in the series. Let me guess, Manu isn't 100% is your next excuse, right? Well Rudy Gay isn't playing PERIOD. If I recall the only blowout in the series so far is by Memphis 104-86 in game 4, I suppose that was luck too?
Take off the Black and silver glasses for a second and at least try to be objective. Last week you said the Spurs would decimate them. After it was proven that wasn't going to happen, all of a sudden you're singing a tune about the Grizz being one of the best defensive teams, yadda yadd yadda. At least be consistent in your views.
you once again miss the point, i will not expend any more energy or time to clear the haze from your head on the topic at hand.
you once again miss the point, i will not expend any more energy or time to clear the haze from your head on the topic at hand.
have a great day and we will see how things go.
That's your usual response, that I missed the point. Typically when you have no counterpoint.
Your point: Every game has been close. Yeah, and the upstart, underdog team has come out on top thus far. If the Spurs are the superior team( and being the number one seed, it's reasonable to suggest they are) then they shouldn't even allow the Grizz to be in the position to 'luck' their way to a win. Point is the Grizz are handling their business, and the Spurs haven't.... to this point. The Spurs narrowly won last night... at home.... in OT..... and were down by 5 under a minute to go. I think it's safe to say they were 'lucky' not to lose, if we're playing the 'luck' game.
The right team won every game in the series... The Spurs deserved to win games 2 and 5, and the Grizz games 1,3, and 4.....cut the crap.
We'll see how it goes indeed. I personally don't care who wins or loses as I have no vested interest in either team, but your stance that the Grizz have merely been 'lucky' is poor. Were the Spurs 'lucky' to win 61 games? Bet that would hit a nerve if someone dare suggest that, right?
I wonder how many people outside the Spurs huddle really thought that Pop would give it to the rookie Neal at the end of regulation...don't ever question Coach's manhood, for sure.
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Originally Posted by rigas
game 1 was won by a "lucky", contested 3 by battier, game 3 was won by a lucky, contested, buzzer beating 3 by zack randolph, game 5 was won by a buzzer beater by gary neal. now out of those 3 shots which was "planned"? the neal shot surely was. its good coaching vs lucky shooting, eventually execution and good coaching can win.
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Originally Posted by Greg1977
That's your usual response, that I missed the point. Typically when you have no counterpoint.
Your point: Every game has been close. Yeah, and the upstart, underdog team has come out on top thus far. If the Spurs are the superior team( and being the number one seed, it's reasonable to suggest they are) then they shouldn't even allow the Grizz to be in the position to 'luck' their way to a win. Point is the Grizz are handling their business, and the Spurs haven't.... to this point. The Spurs narrowly won last night... at home.... in OT..... and were down by 5 under a minute to go. I think it's safe to say they were 'lucky' not to lose, if we're playing the 'luck' game.
The right team won every game in the series... The Spurs deserved to win games 2 and 5, and the Grizz games 1,3, and 4.....cut the crap.
We'll see how it goes indeed. I personally don't care who wins or loses as I have no vested interest in either team, but your stance that the Grizz have merely been 'lucky' is poor. Were the Spurs 'lucky' to win 61 games? Bet that would hit a nerve if someone dare suggest that, right?
Give credit where it's due.
what "counterpoint" is needed? you see you butted in on a conversation that you have yet to see or understand the point in. so here i will spell it out to you, the other poster talks about how coach pop drew the neal 3 up in the huddle which i replied with how the 2 game winners by the griz where luck in that they where not drawn plays, one of which wasnt even a good shot but one of the lowest probable shots of the game in randolphs contested 3. out of the 3 shots in question only one was not a pure lucky shot but a designed play thus speaking to the posters point. now you decided to attempt to twist that into an argument of how the griz should not have won the games they did.
now i have given more credit to the griz to this point then just about anyone, anyone not popping in to troll spurs fans or fair weather fans who seem to be all about the griz these days but never spoke of them 3 months ago. i would say yes the spurs 61 wins had plenty of luck involved, lucky the refs didnt call a blocking foul in denver instead of offensive on melo, lucky manu and neal both hit some game winners through out, lucky for the health of the team all season, and bad luck on the 6 game losing streak. luck is a factor in every game as well. surely every game except game 3 had luck involved and the team who won, won but none where decisive and baring or enjoying a lucky role or bounce could have gone either way.
i will say again, you missed the point, you didnt pay any attention, or just wanted to troll to see about a rise doesnt matter, it is what it is. there has been no chest pounding on my part outside of a "gary f-ing neal" comment, if you call that chest pounding well we have 2 different definitions. griz fans (fair weather and other wise) have been pounding their chests since half way through game one, until last night (or including depending on how you look at it) they have had all the reasons in the world, then again the fact that they printed hats after game 4 saying "we beat the spurs" to hand out to fans was a bit premature and over the top. we will see in the end but watching that over time, momentum sure looked to have shifted. griz and their fans better pray and hope and beg to win tomorrow because they will not survive a game 7. hows that for chest pounding king kong?
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. Point is the Grizz are handling their business, and the Spurs haven't.... to this point. The Spurs narrowly won last night... at home.... in OT..... and were down by 5 under a minute to go. I think it's safe to say they were 'lucky' not to lose, if we're playing the 'luck' game.
