Where are Californians moving? (Boise: rentals, schools, inspectors)

[BoiseBound2012]

Haven't been on CD in a while, but I see the great CA debate is still raging! :-)

My take, be it ever so humble...

Born and raised in Southern California. When I was a kid it was fairly conservative, laws were reasonable, taxes not out of line with the rest of the country, economy pretty good, housings costs do-able, not horribly crowded.

In my late thirties, I began to see enough of a change (overcrowding really) that I considered maybe moving one day.

In my late 40's, I began to see previously decent neighborhoods (not too far from me) decay and crime increase. Congestion on the roads too.

In my late 50's, I began to hate the State. Sad, truly. Way too much crime, even in affluent areas with lots of police protection. Housing costs SKYROCKETING (buying and renting). Traffic not just bad, but a nightmare.

Most of this had/has to do with politics.

Politicians increasing taxes...tax everything they can and keep increasing those taxes as long as they can get away with it. Unsustainable gov't. retirement contracts, bail out everyone who wants a handout, support illegal entry into the US, create laws that increase the damaging effects of drought, kick the can down the road for someone else to fix, create gov't. entitlements that lack proper oversight, overlook the fine financial balancing act of preserving resources vs. preserving jobs, pass laws that are too often unenforced then pass more laws due to the lack of money for enforcement.

It's become a nuthouse. Seriously.

Change isn't always good. As for Californians coming to Idaho and wanting to change Idaho to California, sorry, I just don't see it. I have not done the research, but am guessing that at least 60% of those from CA moving here, are at, or close to, retirement age. And I would also guess that of that 60%, about 30% don't want to recreate what they are running from.

I hope not.

[BoiseBound2012]

Originally Posted by dcisive

Heck I spent 10 years in the Bay Area. 3 in Redwood City then moving to a home we bought a block from the ocean in Half Moon Bay. I for one am NOT one that likes high density living. When they took the building moratorium off in 93 we moved to Utah. Then of course the Salt Lake area also ended up booming and after 25 years I finally got OUT of that mayhem. I elected to choose Idaho for that very reason. Open space, room to breath and wonderful people who are unusually friendly and engaging. You can keep that west coast place if that's what trips your trigger. I've found my desired place in Idaho and couldn't be happier with my choice. I can finally relax. No screaming brats, loud subwoofered cars, noisy 4x4's or ATV's running around. My kind of place. To each their own.

How do you like Hagerman? Haven't visited yet but have read and heard wonderful things!

[mustangjoey]

Originally Posted by BoiseBound2012

Haven't been on CD in a while, but I see the great CA debate is still raging! :-)

My take, be it ever so humble...

Great post, and I think a lot of us feel that way. I think it used to be a great state (and there are probably some that still think it is), but I love the state that I'm living in now.

[BoiseBound2012]

I guess I don't understand why posts are being deleted. Yes, this is an Idaho forum, however, there are a lot of posted questions by, and for, Californians. Quite a few of those posts wonder why so many leave CA, or, assume that those relocating from CA will bring the "bad" with them.

Some of us ex-pats from CA are trying to explain. :-)

[mustangjoey]

Originally Posted by BoiseBound2012

I guess I don't understand why posts are being deleted. Yes, this is an Idaho forum, however, there are a lot of posted questions by, and for, Californians. Quite a few of those posts wonder why so many leave CA, or, assume that those relocating from CA will bring the "bad" with them.

Some of us ex-pats from CA are trying to explain. :-)

Agree 100%. If people were coming on here saying Idaho sucks, you should move to CA, then that is possibly a non-productive post.

This is a relocation forum, and people talk about why they are moving to one place or another and often want to know how things compare to their home state.

But, I understand the moderator's concern with this thread and will be more careful in the future.

[nowhereman427]

Originally Posted by Mimi_in_CA

As a born and raised Californian, it's sad to say that our great state has become anything but great. . .we currently live in So Cal in a neighborhood that regularly gets raided by SWAT because there are so many drug houses here, but it's a revolving door as the same criminals return the following month, the current laws DO NOT punish drug users/drug dealers or drug manufacturers. . . it's sickening to see our beautiful neighborhood blighted by this activity. . . the homeless problem is just ignored by most cities/police . . . most beach areas are overrun with homeless drug users. . it's pretty gross. .. . We just sold my moms condo in San Diego for 500K, it's not a safe area for her anymore. . .we are pretty close to retirement age and have visited Idaho and Montana as possible areas to move to. . . we also own a business and the regulations and insurance requirements are choking profit from us more and more every year. . .it has become clear that we cannot stay and retire here. ... will be visiting Boise this summer to see if it would be a good fit for us. .. any suggestions on areas to see are welcome!

I concur with you sir 100%
This is so true.

[sha256]

Originally Posted by BoiseBound2012

Change isn't always good. As for Californians coming to Idaho and wanting to change Idaho to California, sorry, I just don't see it. I have not done the research, but am guessing that at least 60% of those from CA moving here, are at, or close to, retirement age. And I would also guess that of that 60%, about 30% don't want to recreate what they are running from.

I hope not.

Your "stats" are rather confusing; are you implying that only 18% do not want to change Idaho? And, that the rest do? The problem with made up stats is that they don't mean a thing. Though, your assertion brings me back to my original question:

Do those of you from Boise (Idaho), see Californians coming over and actively, and aggressively, trying to change anything?

[StanSwitek]

Originally Posted by sha256

Way to cast a wide, and mostly inaccurate, blanket statement.

Asking newcomers to abandon thier views, political or otherwise, goes against everything our nation stands for.

Talk to just about anyone moving here from CA, that is what they will tell you.

[Big_Hitter]

Originally Posted by sha256

Do those of you from Boise (Idaho), see Californians coming over and actively, and aggressively, trying to change anything?

nope

[Big_Hitter]

Originally Posted by hellosherry

We didn't move out of California to escape the politics. It was because doctors have the lowest reimbursement rates in the country in California and we needed to make enough to pay back our student loans. Our move was purely financially motivated. Not all of California is overpopulated with traffic. North of San Francisco is very rural and beautiful.

all of the californians that i've spoken to moved here for financial and family reasons, not because they didn't agree with golden state politics