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what is the topic for discussion? what is it about the article that you would like to have as discussion topic for this thread? other than "interesting article" "here's the link"
what is the topic for discussion? what is it about the article that you would like to have as discussion topic for this thread? other than "interesting article" "here's the link"
What does the title of the thread say?: "When the Dalai Lama dies, what will happen?" First off, is he the last in line based on his choice on whether or not to reincarnate, or will another take his place. Will the Chinese government appoint someone, or will a traditional succession take place?
What does the title of the thread say?: "When the Dalai Lama dies, what will happen?" First off, is he the last in line based on his choice on whether or not to reincarnate, or will another take his place. Will the Chinese government appoint someone, or will a traditional succession take place?
well, since you self-identify as a Buddhist, and started this thread topic, what are your views and thoughts on the article? and what would you like to see happen? my first thought is to ask what Buddhist teachings apply and are pertinent in dealing with this circumstance.
also so it is relevant to discussing Buddhism, and not just a discussion of politics, news stories, and current events .
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well, since you self-identify as a Buddhist, and started this thread topic, what are your views and thoughts on the article? and what would you like to see happen? my first thought is to ask what Buddhist teachings apply and are pertinent in dealing with this circumstance.
also so it is relevant to discussing Buddhism, and not just a discussion of politics, news stories, and current events .
On the Buddhist side of things, it won't matter much at all to Theravada Buddhism, Zen Buddhism, and several other sects of Buddhism, because the Dalai Lama is not directly connected to those forms of Buddhism. Those who follow the Dalai Lama will probably find a replacement for him -- sooner or later -- regardless of what he does. And many independent Buddhists will get all upset over something in a far away land that they have no direct connection to -- and that leads us to the political side of things, but that's not something we're supposed to discuss...I guess.
By the way, I know the real reason you're posting here, and it's not an interest in the topic at hand.
To actually discuss the topic instead of kvetching about the thread, I think for sure the Chinese will "find" a fake Chinese puppet DL. It is hilarious though that they think they Tibetan people will follow their chosen puppet .
As to the real version DL, I think it's 50/50 on whether he claims to be the last or says he will reincarnate. He has expressed the idea that the role is now passe , and his people no longer live under a feudal system dependent upon the religious hierarchy. If he claims he will reincarnate I expect there will be very specific instructions on time, place, sex, and so on of the new supposedly reincarnated DL , and it won't be anywhere China has control.
As to the real version DL, I think it's 50/50 on whether he claims to be the last or says he will reincarnate. He has expressed the idea that the role is now passe , and his people no longer live under a feudal system dependent upon the religious hierarchy. If he claims he will reincarnate I expect there will be very specific instructions on time, place, sex, and so on of the new supposedly reincarnated DL , and it won't be anywhere China has control.
I think you're probably right here.
I have to admit that while I have a decent understanding of Theravada Buddhism in Thailand, I don't know a lot about the Tibetan version. I was having a long discussion about Tibetan Buddhism with a Theravada monk I know quite well (actually an abbot), and I asked him if he had ever been to Tibet, and he had spent several months there as a guest at one of the important temples, and I asked him what he thought about it. He admitted that he often couldn't figure out what they were doing. My impression -- and it's not based on personal experience or study -- is that there's too much "magic" involved in it.
I have to admit that while I have a decent understanding of Theravada Buddhism in Thailand, I don't know a lot about the Tibetan version. I was having a long discussion about Tibetan Buddhism with a Theravada monk I know quite well (actually an abbot), and I asked him if he had ever been to Tibet, and he had spent several months there as a guest at one of the important temples, and I asked him what he thought about it. He admitted that he often couldn't figure out what they were doing. My impression -- and it's not based on personal experience or study -- is that there's too much "magic" involved in it.
I suspect you are correct. Very probably the Bon religion that predated Buddhism in Tibet influenced Tibetan Buddhism as it replaced Bon, and as I recall the Bon religion is magic oriented, as many shamanistic religions are.
Tibet, Bhutan, Nepal, The Kingdom of Mustang, Hunza, etc have long fascinated me. Seven Years in Tibet is one of my favorite books, and Harrers partner wrote a good book, if unoriginally titled "8 Years in Tibet" ( he stayed a year longer wandering around trying to avoid the authorities and deportation).
I suspect you are correct. Very probably the Bon religion that predated Buddhism in Tibet influenced Tibetan Buddhism as it replaced Bon, and as I recall the Bon religion is magic oriented, as many shamanistic religions are.
Tibet, Bhutan, Nepal, The Kingdom of Mustang, Hunza, etc have long fascinated me. Seven Years in Tibet is one of my favorite books, and Harrers partner wrote a good book, if unoriginally titled "8 Years in Tibet" ( he stayed a year longer wandering around trying to avoid the authorities and deportation).
I'm glad you mentioned that book...which I haven't read. But I love the movie. What did you think about the film? Reasonably faithful to the book?
I'm glad you mentioned that book...which I haven't read. But I love the movie. What did you think about the film? Reasonably faithful to the book?
Film was enjoyable, but embellished some, as all film versions will. The book is better. Aufschnaiter's book is a good read also, though more matter of fact journal like and not quite as well written from a storytelling POV. Another good read on the area is Michel Peissel's Mustang, the Forbidden Kingdom.
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