Toyota North America HQ Leaving CA (health insurance, 100k, property taxes, car)

[jm1982]

Originally Posted by UKUK

And the sad thing is according to that, metro Detroit has a higher percentage of millionaires than Los Angeles!!

New York City and Silicon Valley are at the top per capita.

Los Angeles large population is the only thing that keeps it functioning.

Yes and if welfare levels were cut to be more in line with the rest of the country based on population, you would definitely see things being a lot different too.
A lot of the business we do have is being supported by welfare money, EBT, SNAP,etc especially in certain areas.

according to a new, more comprehensive U.S. Census poverty measure which considers more factors than the old reckoning of poverty, California has proportionately 45 percent more people living in poverty than does Texas.[LEFT]
Read more: California has grown welfare while Texas has grown jobs, and soft tyranny is to blame | The Daily Caller
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We have 12% of the nation's population , but 28% of the welfare recipients!...Not good..

[ExeterMedia]

Originally Posted by Tulemutt

I really gotta get back up to the boat yard! One last post!

What the hell do those unemployment numbers have to do with what I just wrote? I didn't say anything aboout unemployment? The unemployment rate in California is dropping rapidly after a super hard hit in the recession. Job growth in the state is proceeding at leading national rates. If we lost a Toyota every month but continued to gain at the rate we have in the past year, we'd still be going positive at a rate faster than housing can keep up with.

Now back to finding splinters.

Try to answer this truthfully, do you actually know what the U-6 measurement of unemployment is? You can go ahead and do your Tulemutt "The Google Wiki Warior" act, but the fact that you posted the above shows me you didn't know before hand.

[Bulldogdad]

Originally Posted by 18Montclair

You are welcome.

I sometimes wonder.

Talented people actually WANT to be here. Why would anyone pick TX over CA were it not due to huge financial incentives. Imagine if we made it easier for them to grow their businesses HERE.

I dont believe in wrecking the environment and treating workers like crap tho, so how can we find middle ground?

Oh, and QOL I am so saddened by the number of awesome young couples I know personally that adore living here but choose to leave in order to afford a nice house, decent schools and relative low crime. In the bay youd need to drop what? 1.5 million? In Utah its like 400,000.

But I digress.

The balance is gone.

This is what happens when one political party get too much power.

[RaymondChandlerLives]

Originally Posted by UKUK

And the sad thing is according to that, metro Detroit has a higher percentage of millionaires than Los Angeles!!

New York City and Silicon Valley are at the top per capita.

Los Angeles large population is the only thing that keeps it functioning.

New York City's median income is only $2000 higher than Los Angeles (and $5000 lower than LA County). The fact that NYC has more billionaires/millionaires only shows how awful the income gap is in that city.

[majoun]

Originally Posted by kttam186290

Sen. Ted Lieu, of Torrance, is one of the legislatures most left-leaning, anti-business Democrats too. He's always trying to out-left the leftiest Democrats from the SF Bay Area. Ironic, ain't it? Maybe this will be a wake-up call...Kinda hard to ignore when it's your very own district.

Lieu's running for Congress, and will probably be the successor to the retiring Henry Waxman.

[nslander]

Originally Posted by Johnhw2

New employees can afford a home in Texas which progressives like to ignore when they whine about inequality and low wages...... They chose to ignore the role high living costs play in the issue.

Actually, pretty much all of them readily acknowledge the high cost of housing, which is a function of demand. No need to over-complicate this: one is relatively more affordable, the other is relatively more desirable

[PedroMartinez]

Sorry to side track, but I hear San Antonio is sending a delegation to talk to some condiment producer that has had issues with "spicy air pollution" about relocating from California.

If y'all could go picket that company for a few days, we'd be much obliged.

[Johnhw2]

Originally Posted by nslander

Actually, pretty much all of them readily acknowledge the high cost of housing, which is a function of demand. No need to over-complicate this: one is relatively more affordable, the other is relatively more desirable

Its more than demand... regs and zoning (proffers) play a role too. Limiting supply is at play too.

[Cowboys fan in Houston]

Originally Posted by PedroMartinez

Sorry to side track, but I hear San Antonio is sending a delegation to talk to some condiment producer that has had issues with "spicy air pollution" about relocating from California.

If y'all could go picket that company for a few days, we'd be much obliged.

Jason Villalba, a rep from Dallas is doing the same to get them in Denton County.

[silverkris]

Originally Posted by ExeterMedia

The thing is, when does it stop? Battery plants, okay, I get the aversion to those. But you also have the NIMBYs shutting down the Siracha plant down here in SoCal because of "spicy smells". It's like everyone here wants their own cheap, unmolested paradise, but then they complain about the state losing jobs and high unemployment in general. Can't have it both ways.

Well, actually that has an advantage - you encourage the growth of the renewable energy industry, which has grown quite a bit in California. Contrast that with the state (Arizona? Oklahoma?) that decided to slap a monthly levy on those homeowners using solar energy.