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Old 01-31-2010, 02:44 AM
 
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In California

ER (environmental responsibilty)
An unwelcome topic for some yet California is leading in this area in the US with new initiatives in green technologies and infrastructure being convened and implemented by Californian government and companies.

new green car invented in california

new startups in other new green technologies

A hotspot for innovation in other areas

Large investments happening in California

Leading in IT with Yahoo, Google and other major IT companies based in california


Isn't it time some of the other US states starting following the Calfornian lead again and bringing green technologies to the fore across all the US states.


The greedy cash soaked oilmen wail with No but the pollution stained earth and commonsense cries with the resounding Yes
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Old 01-31-2010, 01:04 PM
 
Location: The State Of California
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In California

ER (environmental responsibilty)
An unwelcome topic for some yet California is leading in this area in the US with new initiatives in green technologies and infrastructure being convened and implemented by Californian government and companies.

new green car invented in california

new startups in other new green technologies

A hotspot for innovation in other areas

Large investments happening in California

Leading in IT with Yahoo, Google and other major IT companies based in california

America is "slowly" turning away from "Black Gold" "Texas Tea"
toward "green industrial projects" , but this process is going to
take somewhere near 30 years.

Isn't it time some of the other US states starting following the Calfornian lead again and bringing green technologies to the fore across all the US states.

All of the "green" with envy states are laughing at California....

The greedy cash soaked oilmen wail with No but the pollution stained earth and commonsense cries with the resounding Yes
American have to see "jobs" associated with the "Green Movement"
before they jump the "Oil Ships" in the middle of the Ocean!!!!
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
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California will be back. Hopefully in a leaner operating mode with fewer entitlement programs.

Maybe a dose of sensible business regulations would help.
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:43 PM
 
Location: yeah
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When was it not?
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Old 01-31-2010, 02:58 PM
 
Location: Bike to Surf!
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Having lived in several states, I definitely think that CA leads the US in general. Love it or hate it, CA is the state that tries new things, ideas, and ways of living. Sometimes they work and sometimes they don't, but at least they're doing something different than they were in the 1700's, unlike many other states of the Union.

Now, there may be other states that qualify as "leaders", but I just haven't lived in them yet.
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Old 01-31-2010, 06:41 PM
 
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Silly business ideas that would not work without government subsidies.

California leads the US in irresponsible fiscal behavior, and that is common knowledge.

* over 3,000 Californians leave the state every week. *

http://www.foxandhoundsdaily.com/blog/michelle-steel/6174-fortune-500’s-flee-california (broken link)
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Old 01-31-2010, 07:03 PM
 
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NJ might just give CA a run for it's "green" money in the form of off shore wind farms. Supposedly there's enough wind power off the coast to power the entire state, and then some!

But yes, being that Silicone Valley is that way, I'm not surprised CA is getting more green tech
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Old 01-31-2010, 07:51 PM
 
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California is still in a world of hurt. High unemployment, giant state fiscal issues, and without immigration, a continued population exodus.
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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As a Californian resident, all I have to say is 'maybe when infrastructure is better'.

If you've driven on any Californian freeway lately, be prepared to hear a musical of sorts as your car hits pothole after pothole, goes between cracks, and the sounds of the treads off your tires slowly eroding because it doesn't understand the definition of 'getting ready for a rough ride'. By far, the worst rural interstate I've ever driven is I-5 between SF and LA. For such a busy highway, its so poorly maintained. CalTrans has to be, by far, the most inefficient part of the state government. If you've ever driven from Nevada into California, the difference is like day and night.

This is one, of many problems California needs to get over.

The financial crisis has hit every single state, so I have no idea why California gets special treatment here. Special to California is the size of the deficit, but that goes along with how large the state government and state economy is. It's also special how retarded the state government is ran, but that coincides with how retarded the average Californian voter is. You know, the type that votes for everything but doesn't want to pay for anything.

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California is still in a world of hurt. High unemployment, giant state fiscal issues, and without immigration, a continued population exodus.
I know you aren't the only person who does this, so I'm not picking on you in particular. I'm a bit bothered that "immigrants' don't count the same way as someone who's 'American' does? Do we suddenly not count? I'm sure this is the case for most Californians, but most of my friends (both in LA and the Bay Area) are either immigrants or children of immigrants from ALL around the world. I don't know what kind of immigrants or immigrant kids you all know, but all of my friends are pretty loyal to America and have parents who pay into the system.

It's pretty disheartening to see 'Well, if California had no immigrants...etc etc' Reality is, California has immigrants, and as far as I know, we're people. I know that illegal immigration is a huge problem (believe me, I'm from LA), but we're still people who contribute a whole lot to the American economy. Look at who runs the Silicon Valley firms. Look at who picks the vegetables in the fields. It sure ain't gonna be 'Jack and Jane Smith'.
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Old 01-31-2010, 08:49 PM
 
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As a Californian resident, all I have to say is 'maybe when infrastructure is better'.

If you've driven on any Californian freeway lately, be prepared to hear a musical of sorts as your car hits pothole after pothole, goes between cracks, and the sounds of the treads off your tires slowly eroding because it doesn't understand the definition of 'getting ready for a rough ride'. By far, the worst rural interstate I've ever driven is I-5 between SF and LA. For such a busy highway, its so poorly maintained. CalTrans has to be, by far, the most inefficient part of the state government. If you've ever driven from Nevada into California, the difference is like day and night.

This is one, of many problems California needs to get over.

The financial crisis has hit every single state, so I have no idea why California gets special treatment here. Special to California is the size of the deficit, but that goes along with how large the state government and state economy is. It's also special how retarded the state government is ran, but that coincides with how retarded the average Californian voter is. You know, the type that votes for everything but doesn't want to pay for anything.



I know you aren't the only person who does this, so I'm not picking on you in particular. I'm a bit bothered that "immigrants' don't count the same way as someone who's 'American' does? Do we suddenly not count? I'm sure this is the case for most Californians, but most of my friends (both in LA and the Bay Area) are either immigrants or children of immigrants from ALL around the world. I don't know what kind of immigrants or immigrant kids you all know, but all of my friends are pretty loyal to America and have parents who pay into the system.

It's pretty disheartening to see 'Well, if California had no immigrants...etc etc' Reality is, California has immigrants, and as far as I know, we're people. I know that illegal immigration is a huge problem (believe me, I'm from LA), but we're still people who contribute a whole lot to the American economy. Look at who runs the Silicon Valley firms. Look at who picks the vegetables in the fields. It sure ain't gonna be 'Jack and Jane Smith'.
I sincerely apologize if my comment came off as insensitive. I perhaps should have said, "illegal immigration". I have no issue with legal immigration, as that has indeed made up much of the U.S. population increase in the past century. The immigrant population of California has been beneficial to the economy in the long-term, but there is no argument that it has changed the makeup of the population. And there is nothing wrong with that.
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