Prefer LA over SF (Los Angeles, San Jose: homes, income, to live)

[Rcsligar]

To me LA = Less sanctimonious, more vibrant/creative, more middle of the road/moderate than SF. Prefer the cultural climate in LA much more although I will give the scenery edge to SF. LA is the best, and if you haven't been, go to the Stanley Kubrick exhibit at LACMA.

[pch1013]

On the other hand, SF tolerates eccentricity -- at least for now -- better than LA does. In LA the pressure to be perfect, in terms of your appearance, your income, what car you drive, etc., seems overwhelming. In SF, not so much. Not that there aren't plenty of nouveau riche floating around here, but they generally keep their absurd wealth on the DL. Even some of the über-rich in Pacific Heights have to park on the street like everyone else.

Of course one could argue that ostentatiously wearing torn jeans and $5000 worth of tattoos is just as bad as flaunting one's Mercedes and boob job, but it does make it easier for an actual poor person to "pass" for one of the in crowd.

And BTW I don't mean to bash LA; I used to live there and still think of it fondly. I just don't think I could handle the pressure anymore.

[SportyandMisty]

SF is incredibly Intolerant of political conservatives and social conservatives.


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[pch1013]

Originally Posted by SportyandMisty

SF is incredibly Intolerant of political conservatives and social conservatives.

And yet we still allow Michael "Savage" Wiener to live among us. How many ultra-liberal radio commentators are there in Lubbock?

[Rcsligar]

Originally Posted by pch1013

On the other hand, SF tolerates eccentricity -- at least for now -- better than LA does. In LA the pressure to be perfect, in terms of your appearance, your income, what car you drive, etc., seems overwhelming. In SF, not so much. Not that there aren't plenty of nouveau riche floating around here, but they generally keep their absurd wealth on the DL. Even some of the über-rich in Pacific Heights have to park on the street like everyone else.

Of course one could argue that ostentatiously wearing torn jeans and $5000 worth of tattoos is just as bad as flaunting one's Mercedes and boob job, but it does make it easier for an actual poor person to "pass" for one of the in crowd.

And BTW I don't mean to bash LA; I used to live there and still think of it fondly. I just don't think I could handle the pressure anymore.

Right but I think there should be a happy medium between the bohemian lifestyle and excessive decadence.

[Bunjee]

Originally Posted by pch1013

On the other hand, SF tolerates eccentricity -- at least for now -- better than LA does. In LA the pressure to be perfect, in terms of your appearance, your income, what car you drive, etc., seems overwhelming. In SF, not so much. Not that there aren't plenty of nouveau riche floating around here, but they generally keep their absurd wealth on the DL. Even some of the über-rich in Pacific Heights have to park on the street like everyone else.

Of course one could argue that ostentatiously wearing torn jeans and $5000 worth of tattoos is just as bad as flaunting one's Mercedes and boob job, but it does make it easier for an actual poor person to "pass" for one of the in crowd.

And BTW I don't mean to bash LA; I used to live there and still think of it fondly. I just don't think I could handle the pressure anymore.

Is this generally true or is it ironically more an image? Studies have shown that SF is actually a plastic surgery capital.

U.S. Cities with the Most Plastic Surgery
Top Cities for Vanity | Men's Health

Los Angeles doesn't rank nearly as high as SF, and even when Beverly Hills is isolated as #1, SF comes in at #2. Sacramento ranks high too, and in other surveys San Jose makes the top 10. Now personally, I don't know and have never known anyone who's had plastic surgery in SoCal, nor did I in NorCal. So with those direct experiences being equal, given this statistical data can I really say L.A. and SF are polar opposites in attitudes about appearance?

Actually, thinking about it I have known people who've had some of the procedures cited, like Botox, breast augmentation and teeth whitening. They were in SF but I did have a broader circle of acquaintances.

[pch1013]

Well, I'm sure my impressions are clouded by having spent most of my time in LA on the Westside. If Brentwood were a city I'm sure it would rank right up there too.

[blue bird]

LA people are nicer and friendlier than SF

[pch1013]

Originally Posted by SpadeSam

I cannot imagine too much decadence. Seems like a fine thing to me, and the more the better. I always enjoyed San Francisco's COYOTE Ball

And I can't imagine something like the Folsom Street Fair taking place in LA. The closest thing they had was Sunset Junction, which was much tamer (and is gone now anyway).

[Bunjee]

Originally Posted by pch1013

And I can't imagine something like the Folsom Street Fair taking place in LA. The closest thing they had was Sunset Junction, which was much tamer (and is gone now anyway).

Much less Dore Alley Fair. It just could not happen in L.A. Why? That would be an interesting question to pose. Maybe it's access, how areas not only are divided into the valleys but can be more strictly isolated from the general public. Maybe it's few or almost zero children in specific areas whereas even West Hollywood has single family homes.