KQED: California has the highest poverty rate in the country (San Francisco: sales, car registration)

[CaliforniaGal]

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[StanleysOwl]

Originally Posted by lovecrowds

http://www.census.gov/content/dam/Ce...mo/p60-258.pdf

I have been in California many, many times and the state wants no middle-class. They want a small elite at the top and then lots and lots of poverty at the bottom.

The $15 minimum wage for example was just a tool to send lower-wage companies that people can start out with and get experiences and a paycheck packing their bags and moving to other states.

The state thinks that companies that can't upwards of $20 after FICA and Workers Compensation are not welcome in California. It is this elite mentality that sends poverty rates skyrocketing.

It is likely far worse poverty wise because families with huge household sizes I heavily doubt will sit there and fill out a survey from the Census and then is a huge homeless population in California that won't fill out a survey either because there is no way to mail it to them.

Californians like to throw money at problems which is all wasted money, rather then have a friendly, cohesive environment that gets people's foot in the door so they can afford a small place.

Nebraska and Minnesota have many agencies that help people out and become self-sufficient and they usually always have major labor shortages.

California on the other hand really doesn't have good, non-profits agencies and the state would rather encourage policies that put people deeper and deeper into poverty then have strong, cohensive non-profits and lots of surplus job openings.

I as familiar with Minnesota and Nebraska that have 9% SPM poverty rates and they have huge middle-classes, a very connected population that works together. They have a tremendous amount of non-profits per-capita that do all they can for people to become self-sufficient.

Employers are also willing to give people a chance when they pay $8 in Nebraska so that the employees can get more productive and prove themselves. California will be requiring $15 plus workers comp and FICA so only the best and the best in low value-added per employee sectors will have a chance to walk into the door to get experience.

Quite a lot of unsupported speculation. Especially fun is that you compare Nebraska and Minnesota to California. Do you know why the have major labor shortages? Check your weather channel regularly for updates.

[radiolibre99]

Originally Posted by StanleysOwl

Quite a lot of unsupported speculation. Especially fun is that you compare Nebraska and Minnesota to California. Do you know why the have major labor shortages? Check your weather channel regularly for updates.

Is this a jab at the states because their weather sucks and no one wants to live there or whatnot, or is it cus the weather affects a lot of work?

[StanleysOwl]

Originally Posted by radiolibre99

Is this a jab at the states because their weather sucks and no one wants to live there or whatnot, or is it cus the weather affects a lot of work?

Mostly the former.

[radiolibre99]

Originally Posted by StanleysOwl

Mostly the former.

Yes, that's right. Good point.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by radiolibre99

Yes, that's right. Good point.

Nope:


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Nebraska's population grew 0.7 percent in the past year, according to the latest estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau. That was one of the highest growth rates in the region, placing Nebraska 21st among the states.Dec 23, 2015

https://www.google.com/search?q=nebr...utf-8&oe=utf-8

Blind prejudice does cause some to show they do not know what they are talking about.

California's population grew at a rate of 0.9% in 2015, a rate slightly lower than the prior year. Each year since 2010 the annual rate of population growth is around 1%. County-level data released in July 2015 show population increases in all of California's most populous counties.

The need for workers is due to people having good paying jobs for the COL of living there, unlike CA.

[StanleysOwl]

Originally Posted by expatCA

Nope:


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Nebraska's population grew 0.7 percent in the past year, according to the latest estimates from the U.S. Census Bureau. That was one of the highest growth rates in the region, placing Nebraska 21st among the states.Dec 23, 2015

https://www.google.com/search?q=nebr...utf-8&oe=utf-8

Blind prejudice does cause some to show they do not know what they are talking about.

California's population grew at a rate of 0.9% in 2015, a rate slightly lower than the prior year. Each year since 2010 the annual rate of population growth is around 1%. County-level data released in July 2015 show population increases in all of California's most populous counties.

The need for workers is due to people having good paying jobs for the COL of living there, unlike CA.

So Nebraska's rate of growth is 0.7% which is exactly equal to the growth rate of the US as a whole. California grew at a rate of 0.9% which is higher than the national rate.

0.7% of Nebraskas population of just under 1.9 million is an additional 130,000 people. California's 0.9% growth added 3,600,000 to our state.

Are you suggesting this metric set is relational to desirability to live here as contrasted to Nebraska?
If a place had 100 population double to 200 would you compare its growth rate to Californias?

Pardon my amusement.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by StanleysOwl

So Nebraska's rate of growth is 0.7% which is exactly equal to the growth rate of the US as a whole. California grew at a rate of 0.9% which is higher than the national rate.

0.7% of Nebraskas population of just under 1.9 million is an additional 130,000 people. California's 0.9% growth added 3,600,000 to our state.

Are you suggesting this metric set is relational to desirability to live here as contrasted to Nebraska?
If a place had 100 population double to 200 would you compare its growth rate to Californias?

Pardon my amusement.

It isn't losing residents as CA is (More leave CA than move in from other States) and with none of the beauty of CA it is still doing well. CA is not. Highest poverty rate, etc. NE has jobs for the population growth and .... CA doesn't.

[StanleysOwl]

Originally Posted by expatCA

It isn't losing residents as CA is (More leave CA than move in from other States) and with none of the beauty of CA it is still doing well. CA is not. Highest poverty rate, etc. NE has jobs for the population growth and .... CA doesn't.

Californias population is growing. You posted that yourself. It is not losing more than it is gaining. Just the opposite. Where the newcomers arrive from is immaterial.

Highest poverty rate isn't a sign of Californias health as a state. It is a sign of people refusing to seek opportunity elsewhere (likely because it is so desirable here). California is the nation's top economy. Period. By far and away.

A major problem with your position, like many who believe similarly, is the assumption that any and all population growth is desirable. It isnt. Especially when we are already by far the most populated state in the nation.

Nebraska is a stable healthy state. Good for them. And all their 1.89 million population. Which is 20x less than Californias.

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by StanleysOwl

Californias population is growing. You posted that yourself. It is not losing more than it is gaining. Just the opposite. Where the newcomers arrive from is immaterial.

Highest poverty rate isn't a sign of Californias health as a state. It is a sign of people refusing to seek opportunity elsewhere (likely because it is so desirable here). California is the nation's top economy. Period. By far and away.

A major problem with your position, like many who believe similarly, is the assumption that any and all population growth is desirable. It isnt. Especially when we are already by far the most populated state in the nation.

Nebraska is a stable healthy state. Good for them. And all their 1.89 million population. Which is 20x less than Californias.

True that CA has a lot more people than it needs. Unfortunately that creates problems that do impact the QOL of life for everyone and NE and many other States (But not all) do not have such.

CA is a weather "paradise" at least generally speaking in coastal SoCal. However the QOL for sooo many is not offset by that, but they can't move easily as that takes ... money. CA is not addressing the problem and in fact with sanctuary cities and an open boarder policy, is aggravating it. If those polices did not exist things would be somewhat better. Not totally, as CA has other problems. The advantages that CA has, the great IT industry, etc., does not mean the problems can be shoved aside and ignored. Many policies of the State aggravate the problem and they will not change.

Being a CA native I have seen the changes and while many are good, so many are not. Politics is the major cause of the problems, not just people.