will california ever be its own country?

[buckeyenative01]

OMG, ur all so OOOOLD!

[Fontucky]

And don't you forget it sonny. Now hand me my prune juice and shaddap.

[Curmudgeon]

Originally Posted by buckeyenative01

OMG, ur all so OOOOLD!

Well, it beats the alternative!

As for elections, no one ever got rich betting on the collective intelligence or memory of the American electorate.

[deathegg88]

Are we not already living in Northern Mexico and not Southern California?

[majoun]

Originally Posted by buckeyenative01

No.

Unless the Supreme Court overturns Texas v. White or there is a constitutional amendment to overturn that 1866 SCOTUS decision which forbids the unilateral secession of states. Under Texas v. White, states can only secede through an act of Congress or constitutional amendment. There's zero chance of that happening, as many of the Deep South states would lose Federal money paid for by California taxpayers.

However, if CA somehow managed to become its own country, its fiscal problems would improve dramatically. CA is a donor state which pays more in taxes to the federal government than it recieves back, and an independent CA would get to keep that money. If California independence meant having the same relationship with the US that Canada has, I would have no problem with it at all.

[buckeyenative01]

Originally Posted by majoun

However, if CA somehow managed to become its own country, its fiscal problems would improve dramatically. CA is a donor state which pays more in taxes to the federal government than it recieves back, and an independent CA would get to keep that money. If California independence meant having the same relationship with the US that Canada has, I would have no problem with it at all.

Yeah, I don't think the Federal Government would appreciate California seceding, if only because of the economical dependency on the Golden State, and as you already mentioned, the taxes paid to DC. As they say: On its own, California would be the fourth or fifth biggest economy in the world...

[FunkyMonk]

In the future I think things will go in the opposite direction with more territories and different countries joining together instead of seperating. I am sure that in a few decades the whole idea of having seperate countries will become a thing of the past as globalization keeps on rolling forward.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by FunkyMonk

In the future I think things will go in the opposite direction with more territories and different countries joining together instead of seperating. I am sure that in a few decades the whole idea of having seperate countries will become a thing of the past as globalization keeps on rolling forward.

Maybe, but didn't the opposite happen in the former USSR? Yugoslavia?

[majoun]

Originally Posted by buckeyenative01

Yeah, I don't think the Federal Government would appreciate California seceding, if only because of the economical dependency on the Golden State, and as you already mentioned, the taxes paid to DC. As they say: On its own, California would be the fourth or fifth biggest economy in the world...

The Economist recently said eighth largest, about on the level of Spain or Italy.

[the_village_smithy]

Originally Posted by deathegg88

Are we not already living in Northern Mexico and not Southern California?

Um... checking your blurb under your name... where it says "from"... unless we had one heck of a seismic event... Pittsburgh, PA is neither in Southern California or Northern Mexico!!! Then again... maybe you have a huge influx of Mexicans and Surfers in Pittsburgh??