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In Oklahoma a comment about this article came from a teacher with 10 years plus experience who said that even with that tenure she still made just the same as 16 to 17 per hour when she quit.
No, Canadian teachers aren't grossly underpaid. According to the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, Canadian teachers are some of the highest paid in the world and Canadian students rank among some of the brightest in the world. Canada takes education very seriously.
Teacher's salaries in Canada vary from province to province just as they vary from state to state in America but generally speaking across the board Canadian teachers' annual salaries are much higher than their counterparts in America.
The Toronto district school board annual report...
Beginning teachers start at $49,700 per year, the top rate after 7 years of service is $98,600.
This is very close to what the Toronto Police service pays their officers. Of course the Police work shifts and have to attend court on their days off, and they don't get a 2 month long summer leave, either.
On the other hand, in Ontario newly graduated teachers are finding that it is hard to be hired because many boards are closing schools due to low enrolment ,and amalgamation of rural schools.
The only alternative for new teachers is to seek a position in the far north. Because of a number of factors they tend not to stay very long. Isolation, and apathy from both parents and students, is the most common reason to come back to the south. Being one of only a handful of "southerners ' in a community of 1200 people is hard for a young adult to deal with.
It used to be common for Immigrant teachers to come to Canada. That is rare today. The exception may be those who are specialised in a certain field.
The Toronto district school board annual report...
Beginning teachers start at $49,700 per year, the top rate after 7 years of service is $98,600.
This is very close to what the Toronto Police service pays their officers. Of course the Police work shifts and have to attend court on their days off, and they don't get a 2 month long summer leave, either.
On the other hand, in Ontario newly graduated teachers are finding that it is hard to be hired because many boards are closing schools due to low enrolment ,and amalgamation of rural schools.
The only alternative for new teachers is to seek a position in the far north. Because of a number of factors they tend not to stay very long. Isolation, and apathy from both parents and students, is the most common reason to come back to the south. Being one of only a handful of "southerners ' in a community of 1200 people is hard for a young adult to deal with.
It used to be common for Immigrant teachers to come to Canada. That is rare today. The exception may be those who are specialised in a certain field.
Jim b.
Canadian teachers are well paid and have strong unions and great pensions,
plenty on vaction time too.
Only downside is the kids....a classroom full of kids is no picnic,
if the kids were better behaved I'd be a teacher.
I have friends that are teachers and they are paid well. Good pensions etc.
They work hard. The myth that they only work 9 to 3 is just that. Many are there at 8, and don't leave to 5. If a special school event is happening, be it sports or a play, they are there much longer and do a lot of extra work in their spare time.
So does that mean that Oklahoma happens to be an exception by American standards? From the article in the first post it says
"...... Sheehan and his wife are both public school teachers. ....... Together they brought in about $3,600 a month......."
One assumes that means they would each be getting paid approximately $1,800 per month. $1,800 a month for a teacher is grossly underpaid by Canadian standards even if you were to factor in the USA/Canadian dollar conversion ($1800 USA = $2337 CDN). It's still less than half of what a beginning teacher in Canada makes and that Oklahoma couple are not beginners.
So does that mean that Oklahoma happens to be an exception by American standards? From the article in the first post it says
"...... Sheehan and his wife are both public school teachers. ....... Together they brought in about $3,600 a month......."
One assumes that means they would each be getting paid approximately $1,800 per month. $1,800 a month for a teacher is grossly underpaid by Canadian standards even if you were to factor in the USA/Canadian dollar conversion ($1800 USA = $2337 CDN). It's still less than half of what a beginning teacher in Canada makes and that Oklahoma couple are not beginners.
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There are lots of variables. Some states pay so low that they can't retain teachers, and there are chronic severe shortages. In my state, beginning teachers were only getting paid around $25,000/yr., about 10 years ago. The governor at the time raised their pay to $30,000, roughly, maybe a little more, but there's still a severe teacher shortage. In Seattle, one teacher bragged to me a couple of times that he was paid more than his former fellow student at the U of WA, who was now teaching the same subject matter, but at the UW. His point was that his former classmate should have gone into public school teaching, instead of university teaching. I guess the periodic pay increases in the public schools outpace university faculty pay, that might explain it. And the public schools don't have to deal with periodic budget cuts that the universities suffer from the State legislature.
But urban vs. rural pay makes a difference, as well as how long the teacher is on the job, obviously, and teacher pay varies from state to state, as well.
Last edited by Ruth4Truth; 07-03-2017 at 08:52 PM..
So does that mean that Oklahoma happens to be an exception by American standards? From the article in the first post it says
"...... Sheehan and his wife are both public school teachers. ....... Together they brought in about $3,600 a month......."
One assumes that means they would each be getting paid approximately $1,800 per month. $1,800 a month for a teacher is grossly underpaid by Canadian standards even if you were to factor in the USA/Canadian dollar conversion ($1800 USA = $2337 CDN). It's still less than half of what a beginning teacher in Canada makes and that Oklahoma couple are not beginners.
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That means that they should leave OK for greener pastures or accept their fate there. Maybe they just aren't very good teachers. Who knows?
That means that they should leave OK for greener pastures or accept their fate there. Maybe they just aren't very good teachers. Who knows?
Well moving is a given, obviously, and if you have read the article you'll know they moved on to greener pastures (Texas) at double the pay - but I don't think that couple and their capabilities as teachers is the point, regardless of the fact that the article says he received a Teacher of the Year award which must mean he IS a good teacher. That's Oklahoma's loss.
The point is that Oklahoma, and perhaps some other states, ARE underpaying their teachers and I guess you're saying those low paying states are exceptions and any teachers who want to get properly paid should not seek jobs in those states, they should apply to greener pastures. Which would mean those states could end up with no teachers. Too bad for the school aged kids growing up in those states with no teachers.
Anyway, the question the OP asked was "Are Canadian teachers grossly underpaid like they are in some of America?" and the answer is no, Canadian teachers aren't underpaid, they are well paid and get good benefits.
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