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Has she ever needed surgery or to see a specialist? Anecdotes are useless. Every study out there says wait times in Canada for specialty care are excessive. I don't think anybody said it was hard to see a GP to get some antibiotics for a case of strep.
Yes, she has had stomach cancer AND back surgery. She just got out of the hospital two weeks ago for a fractured rib which caused her lung to collapse. She has never had an issue with their health care system.
Yes, she has had stomach cancer AND back surgery. She just got out of the hospital two weeks ago for a fractured rib which caused her lung to collapse. She has never had an issue with their health care system.
Good for her. She should push back against all the fake reports indicating excessive wait times done by Canadian health organizations.
Good for her. She should push back against all the fake reports indicating excessive wait times done by Canadian health organizations.
Wait times and anecdotes reporting no wait times are not necessarily mutually exclusive. A broken rib causing a lung to collapse would be seen immediately. There are not wait times for emergencies. There are many types of cancer. Some more urgent than others. https://secure.cihi.ca/free_products...ort2016_en.pdf
My snowbird friend lives in Oshawa and I asked her about Canada's health care and the fear mongering about long waits to see a doctor. She said she has never had to wait to see a doctor and she is very happy with their health care. Of course Canada's taxes are much higher and she paid over $600K for a 3 bedroom 2 bath house with a garage and basement which seems like Long Island prices to me but the stories about people waiting for months to get in to see a doctor are just B.S.
My friend just paid $600 for a one bedroom + den with parking in downtown Toronto. LOL.
This is anecdotal too, but in the spirit of the thread...
Never really heard of anyone in my entourage (even the wide one) going to the U.S. to speed up medical treatment.
Some people do go to the U.S. for treatment but it's for stuff that's hyper-specialized, cutting-edge or avant-garde that isn't yet available in Canada. Usually for extremely rare diseases.
There seems to be a bit of Kool Aid being served in this thread. First of all Canadians do come to the US for faster treatment and specialty care. At least be honest with your answers.
Is this a US propaganda source?
It's simple math. Both Ontario and Pennsylvania have roughly 13 million residents. PA has 60 hospitals certified to perform open heart surgery. Ontario has 11. Where do you suppose one has to wait longer for open heart surgery or simply take Coumadin for the rest of his life, never getting needed surgery?
The US healthcare system is loaded with flaws. So is the Canadian system.
Since we are being honest. The average number of Canadians that get care in the US is about 52,000 out of 35,000,000.
That 52,000 INCLUDES people who are snowbirds, people who happen to get ill or injured while visiting the US, people that have been sent to a US hospital by their provincial insurer because the US hospital is closer than one in Canada where the patient may live in a very rural area in Canada, but closer to a more urban area in the US.
Now compare that to the number of Americans seeking care outside of the US.
This is anecdotal too, but in the spirit of the thread...
Never really heard of anyone in my entourage (even the wide one) going to the U.S. to speed up medical treatment.
Some people do go to the U.S. for treatment but it's for stuff that's hyper-specialized, cutting-edge or avant-garde that isn't yet available in Canada. Usually for extremely rare diseases.
It's one of the enduring myths in the US to make themselves feel better about their system.
" well at least we don't have to leave the country for care " which of course isn't true either.
Since we are being honest. The average number of Canadians that get care in the US is about 52,000 out of 35,000,000.
That 52,000 INCLUDES people who are snowbirds, people who happen to get ill or injured while visiting the US, people that have been sent to a US hospital by their provincial insurer because the US hospital is closer than one in Canada where the patient may live in a very rural area in Canada, but closer to a more urban area in the US.
Now compare that to the number of Americans seeking care outside of the US.
No, that's 52,000 non emergency cases. Big difference between a snowbird having a coronary down in Florida and somebody who can't get the necessary treatment or is just sick of waiting.
Again, you're inserting something that has nothing to do with the topic, which was asking if Canadians really come to the US to expedite healthcare. Yes they do. There was nothing asking how many Americans go overseas to seek healthcare.
Having a capitalistic healthcare system promotes cutting edge treatments and medications. Such a system has more than its share of faults, but the world is a better place for many as a result of evil capitalist pigs being involved in medicine. It's tough to deny. The US leads the rest of the entire world combined in medical device patents. Eventually everybody benefits from such innovation.
(Pointing this out to Natasci).
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