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Old 07-07-2018, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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That's been going on for probably a century. So yes, it's probably a bit late to address it.
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Old 07-07-2018, 02:24 PM
 
Location: Canada
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Adults trying to get into the US do indeed try to do it by bringing in children that are not their own, and the incidence has increased in the last ten years or so.
I don't understand this. What is the reason for them to be saddling themselves with unnecessary responsibilities and bringing other people's children with them?


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Old 07-07-2018, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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People coming in with children get a bit more sympathy than single adults. If successful, the child can always be dumped later.
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Old 07-07-2018, 02:50 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Do you have a link for that?
This is about alien smuggling in general, but it will give you an idea of the ways that a child making illegal entry could be accompanying someone who is not a parent or relative.

https://www.ilrc.org/sites/default/f...y-20170728.pdf

One way would be for a coyote to get caught caught smuggling in a child, even if the parent paid the coyote and was not there at the crossing or escaped being caught. The coyote claims the child is his, but that is not true. Should the coyote be allowed to leave with that child?

https://www.gurfinkel.com/lifetime-b...a-given-child/

Border Patrol is required to screen children from Mexico (and Canada ) for abuse and trafficking.

https://www.americanimmigrationcounc...-and-responses

"Child welfare screening to replace or augment Border Patrol screening.

Border Patrol agents are currently tasked with screening Mexican and Canadian children for trafficking and persecution and preventing their return to persecutors or abusers."
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Old 07-07-2018, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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I don't understand this. What is the reason for them to be saddling themselves with unnecessary responsibilities and bringing other people's children with them?
Who says they will remain responsible? Why should the US assume they will be?

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People coming in with children get a bit more sympathy than single adults. If successful, the child can always be dumped later.
Or sold for prostitution.
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Old 07-07-2018, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Canada
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That's been going on for probably a century. So yes, it's probably a bit late to address it.

Yes, a bit late. Personally I think that North America (meaning both USA and Canada but especially USA) could have avoided a lot of this happening to such an extent if there had been humble modesty practised and none of the damned boastful propaganda and self-righteous bragging about how wonderful and superior and rich these two countries are compared to the rest of the world.


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Old 07-07-2018, 05:31 PM
 
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Then Canada presumes that any child brought into the country illegally is actually the child of the adult who brings him there?

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/...order/#slide-1

"The Trump administration isn’t changing the rules that pertain to separating an adult from the child. Those remain the same. Separation happens only if officials find that the adult is falsely claiming to be the child’s parent, or is a threat to the child, or is put into criminal proceedings.

... The past practice had been to give a free pass to an adult who is part of a family unit. The new Trump policy is to prosecute all adults. The idea is to send a signal that we are serious about our laws and to create a deterrent against re-entry. (Illegal entry is a misdemeanor, illegal re-entry a felony.)

When a migrant is prosecuted for illegal entry, he or she is taken into custody by the U.S. Marshals. In no circumstance anywhere in the U.S. do the marshals care for the children of people they take into custody. The child is taken into the custody of HHS, who cares for them at temporary shelters."
The topic is asking about how Canadians feel about illegals coming to Canada and the topic is not about giving Americans a platform to justify their reprehensible treatment of their illegal demographic.
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Old 07-07-2018, 05:57 PM
 
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So sorry Canada.
It amazes me how far people will travel and the chances they take to illegally enter a country.
Good, Bad, downtrodden or gangs they are 'all' illegal. Without severe penalties your invaded homeland is doomed. True for US and Canada as well. It's already happened in Europe. They out breed, out consume the inhabitants. What was is no more. Establish your own plan to avoid this, it is real.
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Old 07-07-2018, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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As a matter of historical record, people have always traveled from poorer regions to regions that are safer, more prosperous, etc.
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Old 07-07-2018, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I wouldn't be surprised if a few Venezuelans make it all the way to Canada. Their "worker's paradise" seems to be imploding.
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