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Old 12-15-2014, 03:24 PM
 
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Wow, I just had an idea for a great new product: camo scrubs. Blotched with stains appearing to be blood at different stages of drying, and other bodily fluids.

That would get you some "personal space" at the store, or in the elevator.
Yes, but don't wear it in Florida..someone might shoot you and say he felt his life was in danger
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:33 PM
 
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An R.N. who is compassionate, who knows when and how to be supportive to patients, how to be firm yet caring, know how to intervene or accomodate professionally is a respectable R.N. If a R.N. does not have these qualities, then that person is worthless in the nursing field.
They should GET A DIFFERENT JOB!!!!,,#+@#=!$
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Old 12-15-2014, 05:43 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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An R.N. who is compassionate, who knows when and how to be supportive to patients, how to be firm yet caring, know how to intervene or accomodate professionally is a respectable R.N. If a R.N. does not have these qualities, then that person is worthless in the nursing field.
They should GET A DIFFERENT JOB!!!!,,#+@#=!$
If you read the OP's post you will see that she is not talking about how she deals with her patients and their relatives but "friends, friends of a friend, next door neighbors, acquaintances, or coworkers " who are expecting her to do these things for free on her own time and without complete knowledge of the medical conditions. That is completely different from a professional who is on the job.

It would be similar to you asking the doctor who lives on the next block, during a cocktail party, to tell your husband that he needs to take a certain medication or to have tests done (when neither you or your husband are his patients). You would not call him a bad doctor if he refuses to do that.

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Old 12-15-2014, 05:57 PM
 
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If you read the OP's post you will see that she is not talking about how she deals with her patients and their relatives but "friends, friends of a friend, next door neighbors, acquaintances, or coworkers " who are expecting her to do these things for free on her own time and without complete knowledge of the medical conditions. That is completely different from a professional who is on the job.

It would be similar to you asking the doctor who lives on the next block, during a cocktail party, to tell your husband that he needs to take a certain medication or to have tests done (when neither you or your husband are his patients). You would not call him a bad doctor if he refuses to do that.
I'm sorry, you need to read the OP post.
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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An R.N. who is compassionate, who knows when and how to be supportive to patients, how to be firm yet caring, know how to intervene or accomodate professionally is a respectable R.N. If a R.N. does not have these qualities, then that person is worthless in the nursing field.
They should GET A DIFFERENT JOB!!!!,,#+@#=!$
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If you read the OP's post you will see that she is not talking about how she deals with her patients and their relatives but "friends, friends of a friend, next door neighbors, acquaintances, or coworkers " who are expecting her to do these things for free on her own time and without complete knowledge of the medical conditions. That is completely different from a professional who is on the job.

It would be similar to you asking the doctor who lives on the next block, during a cocktail party, to tell your husband that he needs to take a certain medication or to have tests done (when neither you or your husband are his patients). You would not call him a bad doctor if he refuses to do that.
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I'm sorry, you need to read the OP post.
This is what the OP said in her post.

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I recently assisted a friend with a disabled family member a couple of times. I ran some errands for the disabled person. ... The disabled person isn't my patient!
The way that I read it was that the OP was volunteering to help a friend, and ran a few errands. The OP specifically said "The disabled person isn't my patient!" which clearly shows that she was not "on the job" at the time when she did a few favors for someone.

Heck, I occasionally run errands or pick up items from the grocery store for a neighbor or friend, am I now their medical adviser and caregiver?
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:46 PM
 
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If you read the OP's post you will see that she is not talking about how she deals with her patients and their relatives but "friends, friends of a friend, next door neighbors, acquaintances, or coworkers " who are expecting her to do these things for free on her own time and without complete knowledge of the medical conditions. That is completely different from a professional who is on the job.

It would be similar to you asking the doctor who lives on the next block, during a cocktail party, to tell your husband that he needs to take a certain medication or to have tests done (when neither you or your husband are his patients). You would not call him a bad doctor if he refuses to do that.
No it wouldn't, IMO. It would be like if they asked the doctor for a favor at the party and he says "yes, sure, glad to help" but then explodes in resentment because he was afraid to set boundaries. Again, all OP had to say was "I can't help you with that", why is that so hard? It's the over-reaction we were mostly concerned with, it seems extreme. Maybe that's not how OP meant it, but it comes across as rage and seems unwarranted and an unhealthy reaction to me.
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Old 12-15-2014, 06:54 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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^^For Pete's sake, she was venting! It's probably a better way to vent than at the neighbor or his/her family! There's the neighborhood relationships to be concerned about, too.

And who's this "we", Kemosabe?
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Old 12-15-2014, 08:07 PM
 
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I don't know who this nurse is, or what really went down with the family in question, but like she said; she is not a doctor and for her to give medical/nutritional advice is outside of her specialty area. It would be unethical for her to take on that role. I have had my moments where I needed to vent about something. She was ethical about her rant and did not reveal the identity of the person/ family she is dealing with. Sometimes it is easier to vent anonymously then to vent to those who know you.

I am 2 classes away from finishing my M.A. in order to become a behavior analyst, specializing in those who have developmental disabilities. If a neighbor asked me to help them out with a few things, I would say "sure," but if they asked me to give them behavior analytic advice without them being a client and without formal assessments, it would be completely unethical, both for that and because it may create a "dual relationship." You can lose your license over these kinds of ethical issues.

If an overweight family member or friend asked me to pick up some chips or cheese doodles when I ran to the store, I would get them and wouldn't offend them by telling them how they should eat. I wouldn't try to help them come up with a behavior plan in order to reduce their caloric intake. That ADULT must come to me and seek my help, become a client and we must not have a close relationship. If we are close, I would refer them to another specialist in order to avoid these boundary issues.

The OP seems like she is very stressed out and frustrated, needs to let it out online and that is an okay coping mechanism, so long as she doesn't let all of the negative feedback make her feel worse.

Anyhow, done with my own rant

-katnc
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