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Old 05-31-2010, 09:12 PM
 
Location: southern born and southern bred
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So you already had kids when you got pregnant as an older woman . . . wow.

Oh well, then all is ok . . . as long as the children of senior citizen parents have older siblings or other relatives to take care of them, well, that's just hunky-dory.



And to those who have more than 2 kids, I don't guess you EVER stop to consider that you are taking MORE than a fair share of resources, which equates to selfish greed as citizen of this planet.

Of course you don't. As long as it's what YOU want, or you have enough money or back-up surrogate parents, life is good.

Having 2 kids is enough for ANYONE . . . but to have MORE kids when you're almost menopausal and not that far from social security is an abomination.


you got fixed-right? I don't mean brain fixed cause I know that isn't so; but you did make sure you aren't having kids or any more kids-right? You preach it so I assume you practice it too.
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:20 PM
 
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So you already had kids when you got pregnant as an older woman . . . wow.

Oh well, then all is ok . . . as long as the children of senior citizen parents have older siblings or other relatives to take care of them, well, that's just hunky-dory.



And to those who have more than 2 kids, I don't guess you EVER stop to consider that you are taking MORE than a fair share of resources, which equates to selfish greed as citizen of this planet.

Of course you don't. As long as it's what YOU want, or you have enough money or back-up surrogate parents, life is good.

Having 2 kids is enough for ANYONE . . . but to have MORE kids when you're almost menopausal and not that far from social security is an abomination.

"Greedy?" "Abomination?" WHAT is up with your psycho & bitter rants couched in concern for our planet? They'd actually be funny if they weren't so pathetic in their hateful tones.

I hope to God my children never come across people like you who would imply they'd have been better left frozen or aborted just because their parents were "older" by your narrow-minded definition.

Back-up surrogate parents? You'd better believe it! Every parent should have "back-up surrogate parents" aka legal guardians designated for their children.
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:33 PM
 
Location: here
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I found out I was pregnant near that age, after being told years ago I could not have any more. I was married,no financial problams,healthy and was told by a specialist all was well. So ,,,you are suggesting abortion>?
My husband, son and I just returned from a ball game, had a gas. As per usual. Life is wonderful.
He has much older sisters who adore him and would take over lest I fail to get out of bed when I reach the ancient age of 60.

What a bizzare group of people on here.
There are as many different stories of "why a child in older years" as there are couples. Yet you generalize to a point that boggles the mind of most educated people.
My son is having a wonderful life and so are we.
Thank GOD I had no friends/family members like this that write these rules,,,one size fits all.
I have an enviable life,,so does my son.

As for Pippy,chatty and the rest who think a bit more openly and within the realms of this decade, God bless,I cant rep you anymore,
but now,, its now like you are arguing with neandrethals.
You weren't talking to me, but I'll just throw this out there - no, I wouldn't suggest an abortion. There is a difference between the situation you described and very purposefully choosing to get pregnant via IVF at an advanced age, and with a husband 10-20 years older even than the mom.

You might have friends or family that feel as I do, but are too polite to say so to your face. Or, like I said, your case is different than the IVF scenario.

I'm actually quite an educated and open minded person. Most EDUCATED people know what the statistics mean, and realize the increased risks associated with advanced maternal age pregnancies, and make decisions based on that, not emotions or simply "I want a baby, so screw the facts."
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:44 PM
 
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You weren't talking to me, but I'll just throw this out there - no, I wouldn't suggest an abortion. There is a difference between the situation you described and very purposefully choosing to get pregnant via IVF at an advanced age, and with a husband 10-20 years older even than the mom.

You might have friends or family that feel as I do, but are too polite to say so to your face. Or, like I said, your case is different than the IVF scenario.

I'm actually quite an educated and open minded person. Most EDUCATED people know what the statistics mean, and realize the increased risks associated with advanced maternal age pregnancies, and make decisions based on that, not emotions or simply "I want a baby, so screw the facts."
Amazing.

If you're so educated & open-minded, you'd also realize that those of us who go through IVF study the stats, the risks of AMA pregnancies and make decisions based on what we feel is right for OUR families. We don't base it on opinions of people on message boards who've never had to walk in our shoes.
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:48 PM
 
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Amazing.

If you're so educated & open-minded, you'd also realize that those of us who go through IVF study the stats, the risks of AMA pregnancies and make decisions based on what we feel is right for OUR families. We don't base it on opinions of people on message boards who've never had to walk in our shoes.
No one said you should. I'm allowed to have an opinion and to express it.
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Old 05-31-2010, 09:57 PM
 
Location: southern born and southern bred
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No one said you should. I'm allowed to have an opinion and to express it.
surely you must realize how such remarks,such as those made by many here, are insulting and hurtful on so many levels to parents who endured a lot to have their children. It's such a personal decision and I find that typically only the young make uninformed,careless and often reckless decisions regarding having children. Not taking into account the stress and money needed to properly care for a child or more than one child. Mature couples rationalize things and really should not be penalized for their age. No one does that to young,foolish couples who don't have a pot to pee in but can reproduce.
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Old 05-31-2010, 10:05 PM
 
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surely you must realize how such remarks,such as those made by many here, are insulting and hurtful on so many levels to parents who endured a lot to have their children. It's such a personal decision and I find that typically only the young make uninformed,careless and often reckless decisions regarding having children. Not taking into account the stress and money needed to properly care for a child or more than one child. Mature couples rationalize things and really should not be penalized for their age. No one does that to young,foolish couples who don't have a pot to pee in but can reproduce.
yes, I understand that. And I know I'm not the most extreme one commenting. This entire discussion started because I said "happy for them, if that's what they want. Personally, I don't think a 56 yo and a 47yo having a baby is a wonderful idea." Is that really such an offensive statement?
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Old 05-31-2010, 10:58 PM
 
Location: SCW, AZ
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Holly crap some of you got way too much time on your hands to be concerned about how should have a child and who shouldn't because of their age.

Bottom line, is there a law indicating what age is too old for a couple to have kids? No, case closed.
If she is physically and mentally able to raise a child into adulthood that is good enough and they are both not that old, if you people think 46 is too old yet she is able to conceive a child then even god thinks it is alright so zip your mouths and let them have their peace.

If they weren't famous none of you would even know about it yet not-so-famous couples who are even older than them having kids. A few I even know in person. What business is it of mine? Absolutely none.

Couple of crackheads having kids is a different story of course yet we probably all know a few of those having kids as well.
How about clinically retarded or underage or people in poverty having multiple kids like each one came with a winning lottery number tattooed on their butt? What should or could we do about this?

I doubt anyone is or can do a damn thing hence the world population today at over 6.5 billion!
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:03 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Not sure if this is the right forum, if not mods please move it.

Recently someone mentioned to me how Kelly Preston got pregnant at 47 and how women can have babies right upto 50 now because of medical advances. This is simply not true. A little known fact is that the baby will not be biologically hers since she used donor eggs, which means she is just carrying someone else's child.

Pregnant at 47: Can I do that? - CNN.com


When celebrities get pregnant late in life, women sometimes assume they got pregnant naturally, reproductive endocrinologists say.

"They come in and say, 'Well, so-and-so got pregnant, and she's 47. My husband and I have been trying for so long. Why can't I get pregnant?' " said Dr. Hilton Kort, founder of Reproductive Biology Associates in Atlanta, Georgia. "I try to explain to them, we don't know how that celebrity got pregnant."



What are my chances of getting pregnant at age 47 if I use in-vitro fertilization and my own eggs?

"Success with IVF at this age with patient's own eggs is practically unheard of," said Kreiner, of East Coast Fertility.

The odds are so low that Kort highly discourages women that age from even attempting IVF with their own eggs.

"Forty-three is pretty much my cutoff for IVF with a woman's own eggs. Occasionally, I'll do it at 44," he said. "The success rate is under 5 percent. When I explain this to women, they don't even want to try."
Making sweeping generalizations is never a good idea.

Both of my grandmothers had children after 45 (and this was back in the 1920s before anyone even HEARD of IVF). It's apparent that their eggs were just fine and dandy.

I have also PERSONALLY known two women who got pregnant in their 50s and had normal, healthy children.

Every human being on earth is different and for a doctor to be able to "predict" when a womans eggs go sour is preposterous. Like everything else having to do with conventional medicine - they are just guessing.

Speaking to the issue of having a child at 47. I suppose people do whatever makes them happy, but personally, I'd rather cut off an arm.

20yrsinBranson
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Old 05-31-2010, 11:44 PM
 
Location: TEXAS
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WHAT is up with your psycho & bitter rants couched in concern for our planet? They'd actually be funny if they weren't so pathetic in their hateful tones.

I hope to God my children never come across people like you

You have been reported for making a PERSONAL ATTACK.
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