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Wrong. You would be working 12 hours a day, 7 days a week, and with no overtime. Kind of like many in the retail sector do but they are "managers".........LOL
Hey, now, this is SC, and if there's one thing we don't need it's to hear the other side of the story. Take your facts and move along.
Since when is FOX News a reliable source of information?
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Seriously the Fox News bashing on something easily verifiable from other soures is just as played out as the above.
But on topic... The continued lack of local support for the IAM should tell you all you need to know about what sort of value the workforce sees in them.
Interesting how so many sectors of our economy get by just fine without union representation. Yet somehow other sectors say they can't live without one. Seems that perhaps those that need one haven't come to grips with what the market values their labor at.
Were labor unions something this country needed? Absolutely. However today we have labor laws that we didn't when the unions were needed. The suggestion that we would fall back to industrial revolution labor standards should unions go away isn't really a valid argument. As I said earlier, there are plenty of sectors of our economy that doesn't have, and never has had any kind of union representation. These are working examples of how not having unions, or imiting their powers, would not bring about the labor boogey man.
Actually labor laws aren't that great in most states. I knew a young lady who worked as a hostess at a chain restaurant in Georgia. She was not given a break for 11 hours. I was shocked and googled and found that Georgia has no legislation to require employers to give breaks...and there is no federal laws regulating breaks. She was young, needed the job and eventually just had to walk off the job to get to the bathroom. SHe didn't lose her job but was threatened with losing it (it was a big chain in the Atlanta area). Meal and Rest Breaks: Your Rights as an Employee | Nolo.com Not saying that Boeing wokers need a union. I believe if an employer wants to keep a union out all they have to do is treat the employees properly. That should be the focus....that should be our Governor's mantra -- take care of our employees and you won't have to deal with a union.
The problem isn't the company treating the employee correctly many times, it's the employee having a false sense of what their labor is worth and want to artificially modify the market.
it's the employee having a false sense of what their labor is worth and want to artificially modify the market
I do not disagree, but the same could be said for corporate executives.
The difference being corporate executives don't have a union forcing the company to do business with them. The market has determined what an executive is worth. You may not agree with it, but it is what it is.
The market has determined what an executive is worth. You may not agree with it, but it is what it is.
You are right that there are no union forces that come into play with executive compensation, but there is always a tendency towards manipulation.
One could argue that market theory itself is a manipulation.
Case in point, studies show that exec. pay is inflated +7.5% when "pay consultants" are hired to determine what the market says an exec should be paid. I know, it is shocking.
I don't think the unions drove companies out of the North. I think it was management that saw that they could get away with paying low wages in" at will/ right to work" states because those workers are willing to work just as hard for 1/3 the pay and no benefits.
In the North union factory workers get to live in nice but modest houses in middle class neighborhoods and in the South they get to live in single wide trailers.
I can guarantee there is not one union worker in the North who would trade places with a non union worker in the South.
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