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Does this reduce any faith we had in this company and this project? I-77 Mobility Partners say this will have no effect on the project here in Charlotte. They say it is a separate financial structure, but is it similar? The failing of the TX project is attributed to a lack of traffic. Will we see the same here?
It seems Cintra is having trouble in Indiana as well.
What happens to managed lane(s) when the company files bankruptcy? If it means they fall into disrepair with the same limitations of ownership and upkeep, that would be awful.
This whole project really seems doomed before the start. 50 years is such a long time to commit to no improvement. It seems awfully narrowminded from a planning perspective. Has there ever been such an impactful decision made that was less popular.
I got no dog in this fight and I admit that I've never been to Charlotte (so far) even though I grew up in NC, but it seems like Charlotte is always getting screwed over by the state.
Yeah just about everything with this 77 toll Lane deals screams Run away/don't do it. The 50 years is ubsurd...someone (or multiple) must be getting kick backs or $ as this whole deal makes no sense. Grant it we need to do something but I feel this was an easy out when we should have been planning 77 upgrades and improvements years back. Around exits 28-36 it can get nasty...especially around 31.
I got no dog in this fight and I admit that I've never been to Charlotte (so far) even though I grew up in NC, but it seems like Charlotte is always getting screwed over by the state.
I think it was shoved through so fast as a big "F you" to Charlotte failing to realize it's actually republican suburbs who really got angry.
As soon as the Charlotte region said they wanted to discuss problems with the project, the state said "no way Jose, we're going to sign the contract right now" and Lake Norman officials asked to delay the signing of the contract and the state signed it anyway.
The state then bullied the region to vote against looking into canceling the contract.
Does this reduce any faith we had in this company and this project? I-77 Mobility Partners say this will have no effect on the project here in Charlotte. They say it is a separate financial structure, but is it similar? The failing of the TX project is attributed to a lack of traffic. Will we see the same here?
How did this all start?
Did the State simply allow people to bid on our infrastructure?
What happens to managed lane(s) when the company files bankruptcy? If it means they fall into disrepair with the same limitations of ownership and upkeep, that would be awful.
This whole project really seems doomed before the start. 50 years is such a long time to commit to no improvement. It seems awfully narrowminded from a planning perspective. Has there ever been such an impactful decision made that was less popular.
This.
No doubt a private company would get this done quickest and having them complete toll lanes will be the fastest route to more lanes on 77. However, there are so many huge red flags it's really almost comical at this point that our "leadership" in Raleigh continue to push ahead. To commit to anything that restricts growth in ANY part of the state should not be accepted and this toll road absolutely puts a cap on growth north of the city.
Hear me out... Having a few tolls lanes does nothing for traffic or congestion. It just finds a way to monetize the gridlock and profit off of it.
But, build the same lanes, put the same amount of money into it, and make all of I-77 a toll road. Lower investment because you wouldn't have to separate the lanes and all. You end up with 4 lanes in each direction. You'd probably cut toll costs by 90%+ because everyone will be paying instead of a very small select few. And you really would cut congestion... a 4 lane road is much more efficient than 2 free / 2 toll lanes and there will be fewer unnecessary trips, more carpooling, more bus riding, more finding alternate routes, etc if you have to pay a toll.
I don't know about all of you, but I'd gladly pay 2 bucks to be able to drive at rush hour on a 4 lane I-77 that has already started construction from downtown to Mooresville.
I want absolutely nothing with driving on either 2 free lanes that are a parking lot or 2 toll lanes that will cost 20 bucks each way.
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we will see what happens I guess...
