03-18-2009, 04:03 PM
Location: Waxhaw
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I have a neighbor, whose backyard connects with mine, that is doing some sort of construction in tha back.
The construction workers, I am assuming, cut through my backyard sometime in the past 2 days with some sort of vehicle and tracked it up a bit. They also removed the survey stake that was in the ground marking my boundaries.
I have left a message for the neighbor to talk to them about this. My yard isn't as bad as theirs is, but still I don't understand why they blatantly cut through like that or removed my survey marker. I was hoping to get the backyard fenced in the next few months, and I guess I have to get a new survey done now. I have this survey marker up for almost a year...I was not expecting an economic downturn this bad...and it cost more than a few hundred dollars for it then.
I left a message with our HOA also for them to call me back.
I don't see a permit up for the work being done, but I always lived in Meck County, I don't know what the Union County rules are.
I hate to be preceived as confrontational but I am not sure how to approach this. If the work was being done in my yard and the contruction people did this, I would have already knocked on my neighbors door to apologize, so I just don't know where I stand right now.
What would you guys suggest?
03-18-2009, 11:00 PM
Location: South Charlotte
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Reputation: 296
Neighbor and construction.....
Because you are going to live next to this person/family for awhile, it would probably be in "your" best interest "not" to just "leave a message", but to go directly over there "as soon as possible", and state your concern. Try to be as positive as you can possibly be. You want a good outcome from this meeting....because one day, you might need your neighbors help...and where are you going to go....if you have alienated them? They could turn out to be your best friends. If you have gone that extra mile...and don't get any positive results....then, I say....go to your HOA. Let them be your "last" resort. Good Luck....
03-19-2009, 05:27 AM
Location: Southern NC
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Reputation: 3835
I would have waited before calling the HOA...I agree with PP....talking neighbor to neighbor would have probably been your best bet....they may not even know this happened.
03-19-2009, 05:48 AM
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Reputation: 4424
talk to them... They're your neighbors, not the mujahideen!
03-19-2009, 08:06 AM
Location: South Charlotte
403 posts, read
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Reputation: 296
Neighbors and Construction
Hopefully, you will contact your neighbors......in a really positive way....I don't think you will regret it.
I forgot to mention another thing that seemed to really bother you...it was the removal of your markers. Under those markers are pins that are really deep down into the ground......you will be able to find them, and if not...perhaps your neighbor will help you find them. Good Luck.
03-19-2009, 10:47 AM
Location: State of Being
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Reputation: 22752
Hi, Vicki! Uggghhhh . . . I hate having to deal with stuff like this. I agree with you - I am very very surprised that your neighbor didn't come - on his own - and express his concern about your yard getting torn up. However, there may be many reasons for that. Who knows - maybe H has been out of town and W is waiting for him to get back and address the issue. You just never know.
Well, it probably was a bit premature to call the HOA . . . but that is done now . . . so I would just move on to addressing this in person with your neighbor.
If it were me, I would go knock on the door and tell them that you hated to bother them when they were in the middle of the project, but it appeared some of the crew working on the back had been pretty thoughtless and had messed up the back yard . . . and then just see what they say.
I would think thru/ the various reactions you may get . . . If he is a good neighbor, he will say "Oh my, that is not acceptable" and then tell you what he is going to do about it, or ask you what you feel should be done.
If he looks at you blankly and says . . . "Uh, your yard was in a mess already - I am sorry but I don't see that there is a problem here. You can't mess up something that is already in a mess." - then you know you DO have a problem, Hee Hee.
So I guess the first thing would be to just go over there and see what they have to say. And I would have some remedies in mind so you don't have to think on your feet.
For example . . . if he says, what do you think needs to be done to repair the areas? - you should have it figured out as to what you would be satisfied with, as in . . . you want the areas they tore up to be re-seeded or re-sodded . . . and any ruts filled in b/f seeding . . . etc. So have a game plan w/ suggestions.
I would not just go there and say "What are you gonna do?" cause the guy may truly be caught off guard and has no clue what to even suggest. However, if he is a jerk, and he could be!!! - have in mind what you will say to express your expectation that this is HIS problem and you need assurance he is going to mitigate the situation in a timely fashion.
Of course, you also need to mention that the survey stake was removed and that is a problem wh/ you assume the crew will take care of since they moved it - and just see what he says.
I hope the man is cooperative and a good neighbor and not a self-centered jerk. Fences really do make good neighbors, so I hope you can get a fence up soon.
03-19-2009, 12:57 PM
Location: Huntersville
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Quote:
Originally Posted by
Sylbeth
Hopefully, you will contact your neighbors......in a really positive way....I don't think you will regret it.
I forgot to mention another thing that seemed to really bother you...it was the removal of your markers. Under those markers are pins that are really deep down into the ground......you will be able to find them, and if not...perhaps your neighbor will help you find them. Good Luck.
Follow this advice, the flags go away often, the pins are there forever, in a sense. You should be able to find them if you know the area the flag was originally in. You wouldn't need to pay for a sruvey, I believe a metal dedector can find them or some hand held device. So really the markers are the least of your concerns.
As for them tearing up yoru yard, that sucks, as other have said, go over and be inquisitive, ask what they are doing, compliment it (even if it sucks), then comment on their yard. "They seem to be doing a good, but our poor yards, think they'll fix them in time for planting season?" Something like that is pleasent and non accusitory. And in all honesty is probably all you want.
03-19-2009, 04:52 PM
Location: Huntersville
415 posts, read
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You could always light a flaming bag of dog poo on their front porch....
03-19-2009, 06:02 PM
Location: Mostly in my head
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Reputation: 19378
I had a previous neighbor who told the crew grading their yard for drainage, that the property line was where I had a row of bushes to hide their patio from my sight. When I came home at lunch and saw what had been done, I stopped the crew but a lot of damage was done already. They didn't call me that night so I finally called them. The wife was very vague about they thought that was the line. I offered to pay half of s survery but they wouldn't do it. So I had to pay it all.
Then I had to call them again and she said to let them know what I wanted done and they would give it to the contractor. I had to send them a detailed letter. The trouble was they clear-cut a woody area (lot was over an acre and backed up to woods) and that can't really be repaired. The contracftor did do everything I asked, but man, was I mad at those people! Some folks think their wishes are more important than anything else!
I hope you don't run into that sort of folks, but if you do, send registered letters and follow up. Didn't you have the poisoned dog? Maybe you just have to find a way to put up a fence. Good luck!
03-19-2009, 07:42 PM
Location: Waxhaw
264 posts, read
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Reputation: 82
I talked to the wife and told her about my concerns with the yards and the survey marker. She apologized and said she would talk to her husband.
Apparently some delivery "lift thing" (I don't remember what it is called) got stuck going back up the hill and they couldn't get it out. So my yard got tore up.
I talked to her yesterday and I haven't heard back. I kinda don't think I am going to either. She didn't sound to concerned with what I was calling her about, just how I got her phone number. She did say if I had anymore problems to call her.
The HOA lady said to call her back if we couldn't get it resolved and she would send a letter.
Also, I drove by the house today and went over to talk to the crew working to get a number for someone who is in-charge.
They pretended not to speak English until I got really mad and started dialing my husband's number on the phone. I don't know who they thought I was calling, but their tongues suddenly untwisted and the English started flowing. The gave me the number to some guy that was supposedly their boss, who also didn't speak English until I told him "I guess I will go back and talk to the homeowner", when he suddenly offered to come to my house tomorrow to check out the problem. Before that, he tried to blame it on Lowes and told me I needed to call them. I told him that this is his project and he needs to take care of it, not me.
I am slowly making progress but I don't think I should have to put this much effort into it. My yard was an innocent bystander and it's ridiculous that I am the one running now.
Also, they do not have a permit posted anywhere for this building they are putting up. I know that there is suppose to be one and it is a good sized building. I hate to be perceived as a bad tattle-tale neighbor, but I feel like I am caught up in some kind of mess with all this.
Also, I am the one that had the poisoned dog, which is one of the things that makes me a little weary of this whole thing. I will never know who did this and I hate calling attention back to our home. A fence on a lot this size is pretty expensive and we do not have the extra money for that right now at all. I am working on it though.
So, if I get someone out here with a metal detector, we will find the metal survey marker? That doesn't sound too bad.
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People in Group quarters - Institutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - Correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Federal prisons and detention centers (%)
People in Group quarters - Halfway houses (%)
People in Group quarters - Local jails and other confinement facilities (including police lockups) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military disciplinary barracks (%)
People in Group quarters - State prisons (%)
People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)