10-04-2009, 06:27 PM
Location: Chicagoland
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yoyobubba
Proof? All the analysis and comments from the IOC I've seen in the New York Times and WSJ had nothing to do with politics and everything to do with 1) putting the Olympics into a new country, the inevitable, and 2) a vote against the USOC which is totally instable at the moment and just recently thumbed their noses at the IOC with their Olympic TV network. But yeah it had nothing to do with strategic voting to get a new country in or the United States Olympic Committees literal insolvency, instead it was just Bush's fault.
I know they wanted a new country/continent. Everywhere I looked there was the talk of the anti-American sentiment. Here's one:
Chicago torpedoed by anti-U.S. sentiment? :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Chicago 2016 (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/olympics/1804170,CST-NWS-olyresent03.article - broken link)
10-04-2009, 06:31 PM
Location: Chicago
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Totally ridiculous. Yeah blame Bush. LOL. It would have been more likely an F you to Obama, who actually is President now unlike Bush who is just a subtext in history now and who no one thinks about anymore. Obama is the one who is fighting a losing war now and who has boosted our military spending 6% just this year. Otherwise I like Obama, but he needs to get a clue--every time he said "America" and not "United States" during his address to the very international committee I shuddered.
10-04-2009, 06:36 PM
Location: Chicago
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BRAZILIAN
"...Why are residents of Rio happy this money is going to games..." Why not? Do you know what means an olimpic games for a city and the country??
congratulations, brazilian. sorry we lost, but happy for you that you won. The games mean a lot to your city, nation, and whole continent.
When the US competition between LA and Chicago ended with Chicago getting the nod, there was one word that I use that would express the attitude on the vast part of Angelenos who responded to the event:
gracious.
I have no question that the majority of us here in Chicago and Chicagoland extend the same good wishes to you that LA extended to us. You won, and happily for us, we were not the least bit diminished in the process...just like you wouldn't have been if the situation were reversed.
10-04-2009, 09:14 PM
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I know they wanted a new country/continent. Everywhere I looked there was the talk of the anti-American sentiment. Here's one: Chicago torpedoed by anti-U.S. sentiment? :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Chicago 2016 (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/olympics/1804170,CST-NWS-olyresent03.article - broken link)
...according to "Chicago officials" who we know now were obviously pretty clueluess about everything. I'm surprised people in here are coming up with this as some simplistic rationalization for what happened. "They just hate us" is not a sufficient answer.
Listen, you are sitting on the IOC and you are about to vote:
1) Chicago's bid was dull, IOC members have been saying this the entire time. Very corporate and stiff and without any emotion. I tend to agree. There was absolutely no passion in the bid. You could practically cry watching the Madrid and Rio's presentations alternatively.
2) Finances were never in order until the very last minute while every other bid was backed the entire time within the technical document. A last minute deal while every other country had 100% financial backing from the government looked SERIOUSLY bad. Read the technical evaluation. How the hell can you win without having your finances in order the whole time. Relying on private donations during a recession?
3) Chicagoans didn't even want these games! Sure, many did, but do you doubt even for a second that Rio and the other cities weren't showing IOC members the latest Tribune poll, with only 47% of public actually wanting the Olympics, every chance they got?
4) ...and lastly but probably most importantly, quite frankly the USOC is in complete shambles and has no relationship with the IOC. Why would you want to award anything and partner with someone who doesn't want to partner with you.
Anyways, newer article, same paper, but with actual commentary from IOC members:
2nd-guessing: Was it finances? Politics? Dull pitch? :: CHICAGO SUN-TIMES :: Chicago 2016 (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/olympics/1805636,CST-NWS-oly04s1.stng - broken link)
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10-04-2009, 09:56 PM
Location: Not where you ever lived
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I've often wondered why Chicago does not have another World's Fair? I suppose with the Internet being the largest gossip source in the world, it would be nearly impossible to present fresh ideas, foods, technologies, or architectural designs as it did in the previous fairs. At the least I would think it should be cheaper to host for two weeks than the Olympics. Maybe not.
10-04-2009, 10:56 PM
Location: Cleveland, OH USA / formerly Chicago for 20 years
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To the anti Daley folks, seriously, do you not remember the city before Daley became Mayor? Think back. Don't have such short lived memories and for God's sake stop pretending there are honest good willed politicians out there who would do a better job. The Daley machine has made Chicago what it is today. I own a two flat in Bucktown. An area that pre-Daley was completely unsafe and now is all families and crazy expensive. You may not like his methods but he has done the job he has been elected to do.
Yes, and there are plenty of other Chicago neighborhoods that were completely unsafe pre-Daley and that today are
still completely unsafe. So what's your point?
Did Daley specifically cause the Bucktown rejuvenation, or was it that his presiding over the city just luckily coincided with (1) a renewed interest in urban living across the US, sparking an urban renaissance and gentrification in cities from Boston to San Francisco; and (2) the longest peacetime economic expansion in US history (the Clinton years)?
Heh. Let's see how well Daley manages the city during a prolonged economic downturn.
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Chicago has a history of crooked politics. Do some research.
So that makes it all right?
10-05-2009, 09:51 AM
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That Chicago came in Last shows the world is still upset about the Iraq War. But the US just had Olympics in Atlanta and Salt Lake City. Spain had Barcelona, the Japanese already had a Tokyo Olympics in the 60's(this time should be Osaka's chance) I think it was fair to let the city of the River of January and the nation of Brasil to have their turn. I only hope the cops there take their gloves off and crack down Myanmar style on all the scumbag slumdog criminals.
Yep, all the countries of the world get upset with the US when we exert a little bit of military force (other than when it's their turn to need military help, then they're happy to ask for it)
10-05-2009, 11:10 AM
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eevee
boo hoo, I've got a kitten typing for me here
there I fixed it for you so you're poor widdle head wouldn't explode (yes, I purposely misspelled "little")
Don't get mad when someone corrects you.
Please, go back to grade school to take more spelling classes & also detention!
10-05-2009, 11:18 AM
Location: Utopia
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I forgot to mention that the Wall Street Journal DID make it plain that Chicago was lucky NOT to get the Olympic bid. Sounded like they felt Chicago really dodged an expensive and usually wasted bullet.
10-05-2009, 02:43 PM
Location: Chicago
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I've often wondered why Chicago does not have another World's Fair? I suppose with the Internet being the largest gossip source in the world, it would be nearly impossible to present fresh ideas, foods, technologies, or architectural designs as it did in the previous fairs. At the least I would think it should be cheaper to host for two weeks than the Olympics. Maybe not.
the era is over. and i don't believe that an organization even exists that issues these anymore. I think the world has so much global travel that this becomes unnecessary. Also, can you imagine the security risk today of having one.
I would venture to say that Epcot, to a degree, also eliminates a need for temporary world fairs.
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People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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