The Miracle of the Sun (testimony, church, believe, Mary)

[janelle144]

The Miracle of the Sun | uCatholic

This miracle was seen by thousands of people. Our Lady of Fatima.

[hljc]

40Thousand people witnessed this miracle of the presence of God some 97 years ago this month , and people still deny the witness of 40 thousand people

[chuckmann]

Originally Posted by hljc

40Thousand people witnessed this miracle of the presence of God some 97 years ago this month , and people still deny the witness of 40 thousand people

I deny the eyewitness testimony of alien abductees and UFO witnesses.

[Aristotle's Child]

Originally Posted by janelle144

The Miracle of the Sun | uCatholic

This miracle was seen by thousands of people. Our Lady of Fatima.

Perhaps you would want to investigate your claim more fully. I'd recommend that your read God and the Sun at Fatima, by Fr. Stanley Jaki who holds a doctorate in physics and is an emeritus professor of Seton Hall University. He wrote a detained and well documented book on the events at Fatima

The miracle of the sun that occurred on Saturday 17 October happened again on Sunday 18 Oct. Unfortunately there were few there to see it. It recurred two weeks later and among the witnesses was the bishop of that area. It also occurs elsewhere in the world. It is regarded a natural phenomona.

Ask yourself these common sense questions. Did the sun actually fall? Or did it only appear to fall? Why do so many of the witnesses have different versions to tell?

[janelle144]

Originally Posted by Galileo2

Perhaps you would want to investigate your claim more fully. I'd recommend that your read God and the Sun at Fatima, by Fr. Stanley Jaki who holds a doctorate in physics and is an emeritus professor of Seton Hall University. He wrote a detained and well documented book on the events at Fatima

The miracle of the sun that occurred on Saturday 17 October happened again on Sunday 18 Oct. Unfortunately there were few there to see it. It recurred two weeks later and among the witnesses was the bishop of that area. It also occurs elsewhere in the world. It is regarded a natural phenomona.

Ask yourself these common sense questions. Did the sun actually fall? Or did it only appear to fall? Why do so many of the witnesses have different versions to tell?

Or you could say our Lady used natural phenomena at that very moment to help the children. Little, uneducated about the universe, children would not know about it. God works in mysterious ways.

[Snowball7]

here's what Fr. Jaki really said.. in a brief summary.
it's a good conjecture, but still conjecture.
Fr. Stanley Jaki on the Fátima Miracle - Catholic Stand : Catholic Stand

here is more info
Miracle of the Sun at Fatima… « Catholic Truth
Fatima and Our Lady of Fatima

theoreticians may speculate concerning whether God used natural phenomenae
to create the illusion/miracle, however one thing is for sure... it was predicted
months in advance by the children, who said it would happen at that very day
Oct 13th and the very hour... that's WHY the people went there. That is recorded
history in newspapers. So next time you see a 10 year old walk up to you and
say he saw the Virgin Mary, and she said a miracle would take place on Feb 28th
2015, at this hilltop and at this hour... you wouldn't think it possible, would you ?
this was a real and the 100th Anniversarry is coming up in 3 years. Do not be
surprised if something happens again.

[Aristotle's Child]

Originally Posted by janelle144

Or you could say our Lady used natural phenomena at that very moment to help the children. Little, uneducated about the universe, children would not know about it. God works in mysterious ways.

Or you could recognize a natural phenomena and believe that our Lady didn't deceive the children and adults present?

[Correction on dates: The event at Fatima took place on 13 Oct 1917 and again on 14 Oct 1917. It is reported to have occurred again two weeks later].

And the Pope had a personal showing in 1950. http://www.zenit.org/en/articles/piu...cle-of-the-sun

See also "sun dogs" in California.

[janelle144]

Originally Posted by Galileo2

Or you could recognize a natural phenomena and believe that out Lady didn't deceive the children and adults present.

If she told the children it would happen at that time and it happened at the time where is the deception?

[Aristotle's Child]

Originally Posted by janelle144

If she told the children it would happen at that time and it happened at the time where is the deception?

What evidence do you have that the children were told when it would occur? Or is that just their story?

On behalf of the Catholic Church, Dom José Alves Correia da Silva, Bishop of the Diocese of Leiria-Fátima, approved the visions as "worthy of belief" on October 13, 1930.[31] Despite these assertions, many observers, including some believers, saw nothing at all. [ see Basilica and Shrine of Our Lady of Fatima
33.Jump up ^ Jaki, Stanley L. (1999). God and the Sun at Fátima. Real View Books, ASIN B0006R7UJ6]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%BA...spiracy_Theory

The oldest child also claimed that Mary said that the sky would be illuminated by a strange light indicating that there would be another World War. Of course this was announced in 1947 after it had occurred.

[Snowball7]

here is a Fatima timeline for people unfamiliar with what happened.
(pdf). this was all documented in the anti-clerical Portguese newspapers
and other newspapers in Europe.
http://www.fatima.org/f4b/complete_fatima_timeline.pdf