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Abandon your carnal thinking Tony . . . physical objects do NOT have any intrinsic meaning. Meaning only exists in those using the objects.
They mean what WE believe they mean today. No one today is associating them with paganism except pagans.
...the more we read your posts, things become clearer and clearer. We confess...had no clue, but now...well, amen brother. The Blessings of The Eternal One bring you joy...
Abandon your carnal thinking Tony . . . physical objects do NOT have any intrinsic meaning. Meaning only exists in those using the objects.
They mean what WE believe they mean today. No one today is associating them with paganism except pagans.
Mat 5:17 KJV - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 KJV - For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 KJV - Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Thus we go back to the Tanach, specifically the Torah portion, more specifically, Leviticus 23:
Lev 23:1 KJV - And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:2 KJV - Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, [Concerning] the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim [to be] holy convocations, [even] these [are] my feasts.
Lev 23:3 KJV - Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day [is] the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work [therein]: it [is] the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:4 KJV - These [are] the feasts of the LORD, [even] holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Lev 23:5 KJV - In the fourteenth [day] of the first month at even [is] the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 KJV - And on the fifteenth day of the same month [is] the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 KJV - In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Lev 23:8 KJV - But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day [is] an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work [therein].
Lev 23:9 KJV - And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:10 KJV - Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
Lev 23:11 KJV - And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
Lev 23:12 KJV - And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD.
Lev 23:13 KJV - And the meat offering thereof [shall be] two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the LORD [for] a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof [shall be] of wine, the fourth [part] of an hin.
Lev 23:14 KJV - And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: [it shall be] a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:15 KJV - And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
Lev 23:16 KJV - Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
This (above) is the Feast of Weeks. Count 7 Sabbaths from the Wave Sheaf offering after the First Day of Unleavened Bread, then another 51 days after the 7th Sabbath - koolair.
Lev 23:17 KJV - Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; [they are] the firstfruits unto the LORD.
Lev 23:18 KJV - And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be [for] a burnt offering unto the LORD, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, [even] an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto the LORD.
Lev 23:19 KJV - Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering, and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings.
Lev 23:20 KJV - And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits [for] a wave offering before the LORD, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to the LORD for the priest.
Lev 23:21 KJV - And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, [that] it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work [therein: it shall be] a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.
Lev 23:22 KJV - And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them unto the poor, and to the stranger: I [am] the LORD your God.
Lev 23:23 KJV - And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:24 KJV - Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first [day] of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
This (above) is the Feast of Trumpets.
Lev 23:25 KJV - Ye shall do no servile work [therein]: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:26 KJV - And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:27 KJV - Also on the tenth [day] of this seventh month [there shall be] a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:28 KJV - And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it [is] a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.
Lev 23:29 KJV - For whatsoever soul [it be] that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
Lev 23:30 KJV - And whatsoever soul [it be] that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.
Lev 23:31 KJV - Ye shall do no manner of work: [it shall be] a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:32 KJV - It [shall be] unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth [day] of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
Lev 23:33 KJV - And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:34 KJV - Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month [shall be] the feast of tabernacles [for] seven days unto the LORD.
Lev 23:35 KJV - On the first day [shall be] an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work [therein].
Lev 23:36 KJV - Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it [is] a solemn assembly; [and] ye shall do no servile work [therein].
Lev 23:37 KJV - These [are] the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim [to be] holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:
Lev 23:38 KJV - Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.
Lev 23:39 KJV - Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day [shall be] a sabbath, and on the eighth day [shall be] a sabbath.
Lev 23:40 KJV - And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God seven days.
Lev 23:41 KJV - And ye shall keep it a feast unto the LORD seven days in the year. [It shall be] a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month.
Lev 23:42 KJV - Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are Israelites born shall dwell in booths:
Lev 23:43 KJV - That your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I [am] the LORD your God.
Lev 23:44 KJV - And Moses declared unto the children of Israel the feasts of the LORD.
Obviously the sacrifices and all priestly ordinances are post-poned til the return of the King (High Priest of Malchizedek), except the Passover sacrifice, that is still binding upon all Christians.
Now you know Christmas is not part of the Master Plan. It neither forshadows anything, nor does it have any part of Yahweh's plan, but it disgraces him, pursuant to Jeremiah:
Jer 10:3 KJV - For the customs of the people [are] vain: for [one] cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
Jer 10:4 KJV - They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Jer 10:5 KJV - They [are] upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also [is it] in them to do good.
And furthermore, Yeshua was NOT born on Christmas anyway! He was born in the 7th lunar cycle most likely around the Feast of Trumpets (September/October by the Roman Gregorian calendar) because Mary and Joseph were travelling to Bethlehem to pay their "global" head tax:
Luk 2:1 KJV - And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
Luk 2:2 KJV - ([And] this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
Luk 2:3 KJV - And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.
Luk 2:4 KJV - And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David: )
Luk 2:5 KJV - To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
And the shepherds were out in the fields at night:
Luk 2:8 KJV - And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
This can't be December 25th in the middle of winter.
In closing, always remember Matthew 5:17-19. That's where Yeshua stands regarding "legalism". And if you do genuinely believe Yahweh supports Christmas, and you truly believe "Jesus" was born on Christmas, can you at least take heed to the unchanging Word which stipulates the celebration of the seven annual Holy days to please our Lord and Master Yahweh and his son Yeshua? I don't support both celebrations because you can't be on the fence. You are either with Him or against Him...I'm just sayin'.
Hope this isn't "going to the dogs", so to speak. And I sincerely hope it helps. THE LAW STANDS FOREVER.
Mat 5:17 KJV - Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
Mat 5:18 KJV - For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Mat 5:19 KJV - Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Thus we go back to the Tanach, specifically the Torah portion, more specifically, Leviticus 23:
Lev 23:1 KJV - And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:2 KJV - Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, [Concerning] the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim [to be] holy convocations, [even] these [are] my feasts.
Lev 23:3 KJV - Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day [is] the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work [therein]: it [is] the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:4 KJV - These [are] the feasts of the LORD, [even] holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.
Lev 23:5 KJV - In the fourteenth [day] of the first month at even [is] the LORD'S passover.
Lev 23:6 KJV - And on the fifteenth day of the same month [is] the feast of unleavened bread unto the LORD: seven days ye must eat unleavened bread.
Lev 23:7 KJV - In the first day ye shall have an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein.
Lev 23:8 KJV - But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD seven days: in the seventh day [is] an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work [therein].
Lev 23:9 KJV - And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:10 KJV - Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, When ye be come into the land which I give unto you, and shall reap the harvest thereof, then ye shall bring a sheaf of the firstfruits of your harvest unto the priest:
Lev 23:11 KJV - And he shall wave the sheaf before the LORD, to be accepted for you: on the morrow after the sabbath the priest shall wave it.
Lev 23:12 KJV - And ye shall offer that day when ye wave the sheaf an he lamb without blemish of the first year for a burnt offering unto the LORD.
Lev 23:13 KJV - And the meat offering thereof [shall be] two tenth deals of fine flour mingled with oil, an offering made by fire unto the LORD [for] a sweet savour: and the drink offering thereof [shall be] of wine, the fourth [part] of an hin.
Lev 23:14 KJV - And ye shall eat neither bread, nor parched corn, nor green ears, until the selfsame day that ye have brought an offering unto your God: [it shall be] a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:15 KJV - And ye shall count unto you from the morrow after the sabbath, from the day that ye brought the sheaf of the wave offering; seven sabbaths shall be complete:
Lev 23:16 KJV - Even unto the morrow after the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto the LORD.
This (above) is the Feast of Weeks. Count 7 Sabbaths from the Wave Sheaf offering after the First Day of Unleavened Bread, then another 51 days after the 7th Sabbath - koolair.
Lev 23:17 KJV - Ye shall bring out of your habitations two wave loaves of two tenth deals: they shall be of fine flour; they shall be baken with leaven; [they are] the firstfruits unto the LORD.
Lev 23:18 KJV - And ye shall offer with the bread seven lambs without blemish of the first year, and one young bullock, and two rams: they shall be [for] a burnt offering unto the LORD, with their meat offering, and their drink offerings, [even] an offering made by fire, of sweet savour unto the LORD.
Lev 23:19 KJV - Then ye shall sacrifice one kid of the goats for a sin offering, and two lambs of the first year for a sacrifice of peace offerings.
Lev 23:20 KJV - And the priest shall wave them with the bread of the firstfruits [for] a wave offering before the LORD, with the two lambs: they shall be holy to the LORD for the priest.
Lev 23:21 KJV - And ye shall proclaim on the selfsame day, [that] it may be an holy convocation unto you: ye shall do no servile work [therein: it shall be] a statute for ever in all your dwellings throughout your generations.
Lev 23:22 KJV - And when ye reap the harvest of your land, thou shalt not make clean riddance of the corners of thy field when thou reapest, neither shalt thou gather any gleaning of thy harvest: thou shalt leave them unto the poor, and to the stranger: I [am] the LORD your God.
Lev 23:23 KJV - And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:24 KJV - Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, In the seventh month, in the first [day] of the month, shall ye have a sabbath, a memorial of blowing of trumpets, an holy convocation.
This (above) is the Feast of Trumpets.
Lev 23:25 KJV - Ye shall do no servile work [therein]: but ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:26 KJV - And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:27 KJV - Also on the tenth [day] of this seventh month [there shall be] a day of atonement: it shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall afflict your souls, and offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD.
Lev 23:28 KJV - And ye shall do no work in that same day: for it [is] a day of atonement, to make an atonement for you before the LORD your God.
Lev 23:29 KJV - For whatsoever soul [it be] that shall not be afflicted in that same day, he shall be cut off from among his people.
Lev 23:30 KJV - And whatsoever soul [it be] that doeth any work in that same day, the same soul will I destroy from among his people.
Lev 23:31 KJV - Ye shall do no manner of work: [it shall be] a statute for ever throughout your generations in all your dwellings.
Lev 23:32 KJV - It [shall be] unto you a sabbath of rest, and ye shall afflict your souls: in the ninth [day] of the month at even, from even unto even, shall ye celebrate your sabbath.
Lev 23:33 KJV - And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Lev 23:34 KJV - Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month [shall be] the feast of tabernacles [for] seven days unto the LORD.
Lev 23:35 KJV - On the first day [shall be] an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work [therein].
Lev 23:36 KJV - Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it [is] a solemn assembly; [and] ye shall do no servile work [therein].
Lev 23:37 KJV - These [are] the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim [to be] holy convocations, to offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD, a burnt offering, and a meat offering, a sacrifice, and drink offerings, every thing upon his day:
Lev 23:38 KJV - Beside the sabbaths of the LORD, and beside your gifts, and beside all your vows, and beside all your freewill offerings, which ye give unto the LORD.
Lev 23:39 KJV - Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto the LORD seven days: on the first day [shall be] a sabbath, and on the eighth day [shall be] a sabbath.
Lev 23:40 KJV - And ye shall take you on the first day the boughs of goodly trees, branches of palm trees, and the boughs of thick trees, and willows of the brook; and ye shall rejoice before the LORD your God seven days.
Lev 23:41 KJV - And ye shall keep it a feast unto the LORD seven days in the year. [It shall be] a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month.
Lev 23:42 KJV - Ye shall dwell in booths seven days; all that are Israelites born shall dwell in booths:
Lev 23:43 KJV - That your generations may know that I made the children of Israel to dwell in booths, when I brought them out of the land of Egypt: I [am] the LORD your God.
Lev 23:44 KJV - And Moses declared unto the children of Israel the feasts of the LORD.
Obviously the sacrifices and all priestly ordinances are post-poned til the return of the King (High Priest of Malchizedek), except the Passover sacrifice, that is still binding upon all Christians.
Now you know Christmas is not part of the Master Plan. It neither forshadows anything, nor does it have any part of Yahweh's plan, but it disgraces him, pursuant to Jeremiah:
Jer 10:3 KJV - For the customs of the people [are] vain: for [one] cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
Jer 10:4 KJV - They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
Jer 10:5 KJV - They [are] upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also [is it] in them to do good.
And furthermore, Yeshua was NOT born on Christmas anyway! He was born in the 7th lunar cycle most likely around the Feast of Trumpets (September/October by the Roman Gregorian calendar) because Mary and Joseph were travelling to Bethlehem to pay their "global" head tax:
Luk 2:1 KJV - And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
Luk 2:2 KJV - ([And] this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
Luk 2:3 KJV - And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.
Luk 2:4 KJV - And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David: )
Luk 2:5 KJV - To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
And the shepherds were out in the fields at night:
Luk 2:8 KJV - And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.
This can't be December 25th in the middle of winter.
In closing, always remember Matthew 5:17-19. That's where Yeshua stands regarding "legalism". And if you do genuinely believe Yahweh supports Christmas, and you truly believe "Jesus" was born on Christmas, can you at least take heed to the unchanging Word which stipulates the celebration of the seven annual Holy days to please our Lord and Master Yahweh and his son Yeshua? I don't support both celebrations because you can't be on the fence. You are either with Him or against Him...I'm just sayin'.
Hope this isn't "going to the dogs", so to speak. And I sincerely hope it helps. THE LAW STANDS FOREVER.
Joe Kool
The problem here is that the scriptural passage concerning these things is not about things done for a holiday. It is talking about rituals specifically meant to appease the anger of the God(s) that they feared.
Kinda like those who go to church and pray and read the bible in a ritualistic manner meant to prevent God from being angry at them rather than to seek out their creator and hope to know more about him and develop a relationship with him.
Kinda like those who only go to church during a holiday thinking that this yearly ritual will make things right and stifle any anger God had stored up against them or to ease their own guilt over the belief that they have displeased God for not going to church much of the previous part of the year.
There are a lot of examples that can show the intent of those passages and enjoying the Christmas holiday as is typically done, at least here in america, is not what that passage is talking about.
The tree is a pagan symbol and has no business with Jesus or Christianity.
I agree.
Jeremiah 10:2 KJV "Thus saith the LORD, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3* For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4* They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. 5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good."
Sure sounds like a Christmas tree. Christmas isn't going anywhere. We just have to make sure we are celebrating Jesus Christ and not Satan Clause. Giving away gifts to those good and coal to those naughty? Sure sounds like he is mocking God doesn't it?
As Christians, we tend to ignore the thinking of the occult world. What they love is double meanings. They absolutely love it when people fall into their customs with a "good" overtone, but a secret "dark" meaning behind it. They're laughing behind the scenes utilizing their favorite method, mocking. In the end, it doesn't matter what they think though as they seem dedicated towards personal destruction. Just keep your heart and intentions on Jesus Christ and good.
The problem here is that the scriptural passage concerning these things is not about things done for a holiday. It is talking about rituals specifically meant to appease the anger of the God(s) that they feared.
Kinda like those who go to church and pray and read the bible in a ritualistic manner meant to prevent God from being angry at them rather than to seek out their creator and hope to know more about him and develop a relationship with him.
Kinda like those who only go to church during a holiday thinking that this yearly ritual will make things right and stifle any anger God had stored up against them or to ease their own guilt over the belief that they have displeased God for not going to church much of the previous part of the year.
There are a lot of examples that can show the intent of those passages and enjoying the Christmas holiday as is typically done, at least here in america, is not what that passage is talking about.
Everyone should check out America's founding fathers and the amount of providence they experienced when fleeing tyrannical England. Some say they were deists. Not true. The vast majority were Biblically literate Christians! And they never celebrated Christmas. They knew this was no good.
Back prior to 1982, we had a law called the "Lord's Day Act", which stipulated Sabbath-like rules (although not as strict) and the Christians truly believed the Sabbath was changed from Saturday to Sunday. Back in the 40s, the top three problems in public school were 1) running in the halls, 2) talking out of turn, 3) failure to put waste paper into the waste paper bin. There are many more benign sounding offenses. Today the top three problems in public school are 1) rape, 2) robbery, 3) assault, and the list goes on. What changed? We got rid of public prayer, the Bible, Moses, and the 10 Commandments out of our public institutions and out of our national psyche. Fact is, the US Constitution is a glorious document, and yet it won't work for us today and the reason is we are an amoral society at best, and at worst an immoral one with a demonic stripe down our backsides.
Speaking of the US Constitution, try this on for size: The Constitution finds its roots in English Common Law. The founding fathers were free men under this common law during a time of heavy bondage and fled to this continent to set up a nation of free men. The legal term today is a Common Law Freeman. Or Freeman on the Land. Now this English Common Law finds its roots in Magna Carta which was formally codified in 1265, but was actually set up in 1215. Magna Carta finds its roots in Lord Alfred's Dooms. This document was an English legal system under king Alfred who later became famous for liberating the Anglo-Saxon people. Here's a quick link to an interesting blog regarding Lord Alfred. Funny thing is, if you read his Dooms and are familiar with the Bible, you will notice that it is nearly a word for word copy of Yahweh's Law given to Moses who announced it to the Israelites as recorded in the book of Exodus. The only major difference that I found was whereever the word "Israelite" was found, Lord Alfred changed it to read "Christian"! Thus we find that Lord Alfred's Dooms come from Yahweh and Moses on Mount Sinai! This is the foundation of Anglo-Saxon greatness today. I know well that the bankers and politicians have "amplified" the blessings (these are blessings which actually come from God through our obedience and faithfulness to his Word and the literal and LEGAL understandings thereof), but this amplification comes at a great and terrible cost.
So when you hear people say "separation of church and state", always remember where Thomas Jefferson was coming from. He stood upon the truth which is ONLY found in one legal system: the Ten Commandment system of law. Jefferson was saying the state shall have no part in the religious affairs of the people. NOT that the Bible was to be thrown out of government. Why else do you think the courts all have the Ten Commandments engraved into their doors and images of Moses on the mount everywhere? Even in Canada, why does the Canadian Charter of Human Rights and Freedoms starts of by talking about the Supremacy of God? Because the truth is, all of our Anglo-Saxon nations are Christian nations. Today our nations have been hi-jacked by the same money changers that Yeshua threw out of the temple! The very same money changers! Goldman Sachs, JP Morgan, etc....you can trace them all the way back to the time of Yeshua and then some!
Where am I going with this? Here's the deal. Deuteronomy 28 and Leviticus 26 record Moses telling the Israelites (paraphrasing): If you keep this Law, Yahweh will bless you in all your works. You will be the head and not the tail, you get rain in due season, your enemies will attack you one way and flee before you seven ways, etc.....otherwise Yahweh will bring terror upon you, men will marry and another man will lay with his wife, you will eat the fruit of your bodies (your own children), you will suffer the plagues of Egypt (cancer, autism, HIV, etc.) and etc...
Remember the first Commandment, You shall have no other gods before me. Centuries later, the prophet Jeremiah comes around and says that Christmas is in actuality the worship of false gods! These prophets are sent by Yahweh as messengers to tell the king how awful he is. He is saying that Christmas is a violation of the Law. Do you know what a violation of the Law is? S-I-N. Sinning is also known as "missing the mark" and it means violating the Law of Moses. This is one qualifier of the Messiahship of Yeshua, that he never sinned. That is, he always kept the Law to a tee. So remember, instead of Easter (coming up), try Passover. It is, after all, the meal that Yeshua "fervently desired" to eat with his friends (but never did) that fateful year. Instead they had the last supper the night before the day of the Passover when he was killed at the ninth hour (about 3 o'clock).
The problem here is that the scriptural passage concerning these things is not about things done for a holiday. It is talking about rituals specifically meant to appease the anger of the God(s) that they feared.
Kinda like those who go to church and pray and read the bible in a ritualistic manner meant to prevent God from being angry at them rather than to seek out their creator and hope to know more about him and develop a relationship with him.
Kinda like those who only go to church during a holiday thinking that this yearly ritual will make things right and stifle any anger God had stored up against them or to ease their own guilt over the belief that they have displeased God for not going to church much of the previous part of the year.
There are a lot of examples that can show the intent of those passages and enjoying the Christmas holiday as is typically done, at least here in america, is not what that passage is talking about.
Today, Christmas is a time for self indulgences. No one gives gifts any more. We give money so that the recipient may buy himself whatsoever his heart desires. Look at what the children do! They sit on Santa's lap and make a covenant with him...that if they do well, they receive a gift. And if they do sin, they get a lump of coal. This is a contract. A contract is an offer, with acceptance, for consideration, over time! Please don't overlook this fact of law! Offer, acceptance, consideration, time. The four elements of a legally binding contract. Obviously children grow out of this, but the point is, you've degraded the value of an oath. Your word is your honor. If you make an oath to even give up your child, you are bound by it! Here it is in 11 verses:
Jdg 11:30 KJV - And Jephthah vowed a vow unto the LORD, and said, If thou shalt without fail deliver the children of Ammon into mine hands,
Jdg 11:31 KJV - Then it shall be, that whatsoever cometh forth of the doors of my house to meet me, when I return in peace from the children of Ammon, shall surely be the LORD'S, and I will offer it up for a burnt offering.
Jdg 11:32 KJV - So Jephthah passed over unto the children of Ammon to fight against them; and the LORD delivered them into his hands.
Jdg 11:33 KJV - And he smote them from Aroer, even till thou come to Minnith, [even] twenty cities, and unto the plain of the vineyards, with a very great slaughter. Thus the children of Ammon were subdued before the children of Israel.
Jdg 11:34 KJV - And Jephthah came to Mizpeh unto his house, and, behold, his daughter came out to meet him with timbrels and with dances: and she [was his] only child; beside her he had neither son nor daughter.
Jdg 11:35 KJV - And it came to pass, when he saw her, that he rent his clothes, and said, Alas, my daughter! thou hast brought me very low, and thou art one of them that trouble me: for I have opened my mouth unto the LORD, and I cannot go back.
Jdg 11:36 KJV - And she said unto him, My father, [if] thou hast opened thy mouth unto the LORD, do to me according to that which hath proceeded out of thy mouth; forasmuch as the LORD hath taken vengeance for thee of thine enemies, [even] of the children of Ammon.
Jdg 11:37 KJV - And she said unto her father, Let this thing be done for me: let me alone two months, that I may go up and down upon the mountains, and bewail my virginity, I and my fellows.
Jdg 11:38 KJV - And he said, Go. And he sent her away [for] two months: and she went with her companions, and bewailed her virginity upon the mountains.
Jdg 11:39 KJV - And it came to pass at the end of two months, that she returned unto her father, who did with her [according] to his vow which he had vowed: and she knew no man. And it was a custom in Israel,
Jdg 11:40 KJV - [That] the daughters of Israel went yearly to lament the daughter of Jephthah the Gileadite four days in a year.
Through Christmas, we sow the the seeds of iniquity! Please recognize the immense weight of our utterances.
What I find, is that those who are uptight about "Christmas" are the greater promoters of negativity than the holiday itself has ever caused.
Well, I guess then Jeremiah, Obediah, Isaiah, Moses, Yeshua, and Paul were all promoters of negativity. Remember Exodus 16, on the 15th day of the second moon, the children of Israel murmured against Moses and Aaron. They accused Moses of bringing them out into the desert to die! Yup, they were hardcore party poopers, Moses and Aaron were.
Luke chapter 2 records the Messiah being born in the 7th lunar cycle somewhere between the Feast of Trumpets and Tabernacles (not sure exactly when...it's never mentioned). That puts his "birthday" in September or October.
We ought to recognize that Yahweh is the same yesterday, today, and forever, he changeth NOT! If Christmas was a sin before Yeshua's birth, during Yeshua's birth, and after, then it is a sin today and forever. Recognizing this fact, it is now up to you to decide of your own free will if you will hearken unto the Word or not. But remember, there is a way that seems right unto a man, but the ways thereof lead to death.
Shalom
Joe
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Giving away gifts to those good and coal to those naughty? Sure sounds like he is mocking God doesn't it?
