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Kingdom of God is wherever God is, so if you have been born again and received the Holy Spirit, then you could say that a part of the kingdom is within you. Of course the spirit world and out flesh world are separate which is why we cannot see the spirit or heaven. Heaven is obviously a part of Kingdom of God. When we die and become spirits, we will be able to see everything, even Christ Himself.
That seems like a good way to explain it.
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I assume the embryo talk makes an attempt to describe us as helpless as embryos,who don't have a say about what is happening to them. They live in the womb, grow, and are born, whether they like it or not. It would mean that we are like logs in the river, where the water slowly takes us down stream and we don't have any power to change the course, or slow it down, or speed it up. Such view is in contradiction with the Bible because the Bible encourages people to do certain things in certain ways.
No, not at all. That's never been the impression Mystic has given. In a nutshell, as I understand it, he believes that we have the ability to build on the foundation of Christ, and we will develop spiritually or not, based on the choices we make.
Well I understand the many views are differing, and I do agree with those who translate "The Kingdom is " Amoung " you, rather than " In" you. Jesus was the personification of the Kingdom, and of God himself, saying that if you have seen him, you have seen the Father. The bible states that no man can see God and Live, so is that contridiction, so no matter what is said, we simply need more understanding of what was written. We just need understanding, even to understand what Jesus said at times.
And I am convinced that we will see it differently, BECAUSE the Spirit of God has NOT combined all believers in their understanding, further evidence, in my view, that it is not here to remain. When the Spirit comes, all believers in God who are to be annointed at that time, will be on one accord. It will just be " one way" to view scripture, Gods way.
Now we view it our way. And we are not on one accord, or unified. This is further evidence that the Spirit is not here.
It willNOT be that you think you have Gods Spirit and the fruits of it come out of you Monday, perhaps tuesday, wensday something happens and you sin, thursday you feel slightly better, friday you kick the cat, saturday you feel spiritual and sunday satan knocks you down. No, no , If the Spirit is in you, it is consistant, you will always be a new creature, always be at Peace. You will be like Christ, consistant, and unable to sin. The whole armour of God will be your natural state of being, you will always be joyful, not just part of the time. You won't be yourself anymore, you will be born again, a complettely different being!
And many have taken this for granted and " Become Kings before their time", because thats what most have been taught. And the " Period of restoration" that the bible speaks of to come, I think will mostly be a " Cleasnsing of the mind", because we have engulfed so much error into our believing consciousness, that our heads will need restoring.
Kingdom of God is wherever God is, so if you have been born again and received the Holy Spirit, then you could say that a part of the kingdom is within you. Of course the spirit world and out flesh world are separate which is why we cannot see the spirit or heaven. Heaven is obviously a part of Kingdom of God. When we die and become spirits, we will be able to see everything, even Christ Himself.
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I agree that the Kingdom of God is where God is, I disagree that God is on earth. In my view, God is not on earth at this time, neither is his Kingdom. The scriptures clearly explain how God will return, and his Kingdom will be " With him", not here waiting on him.
No, not at all. That's never been the impression Mystic has given. In a nutshell, as I understand it, he believes that we have the ability to build on the foundation of Christ, and we will develop spiritually or not, based on the choices we make.
URs do not believe in choise, so if the embryos are building something, then they must have been told to do so. I don't know.....those kinds of theories are pretty far fetched, and usually end up crashing and burning in contradiction.
I agree that the Kingdom of God is where God is, I disagree that God is on earth. In my view, God is not on earth at this time, neither is his Kingdom. The scriptures clearly explain how God will return, and his Kingdom will be " With him", not here waiting on him.
Peace.
He is here in spirit. Jesus promised to send the councelor, the Holy Spirit which is a part of God, and when the Spirit came, a part of the Kingdom came with it.
Well I understand the many views are differing, and I do agree with those who translate "The Kingdom is " Amoung " you, rather than " In" you. Jesus was the personification of the Kingdom, and of God himself, saying that if you have seen him, you have seen the Father. The bible states that no man can see God and Live, so is that contridiction, so no matter what is said, we simply need more understanding of what was written. We just need understanding, even to understand what Jesus said at times.
And I am convinced that we will see it differently, BECAUSE the Spirit of God has NOT combined all believers in their understanding, further evidence, in my view, that it is not here to remain. When the Spirit comes, all believers in God who are to be annointed at that time, will be on one accord. It will just be " one way" to view scripture, Gods way.
Now we view it our way. And we are not on one accord, or unified. This is further evidence that the Spirit is not here.
It willNOT be that you think you have Gods Spirit and the fruits of it come out of you Monday, perhaps tuesday, wensday something happens and you sin, thursday you feel slightly better, friday you kick the cat, saturday you feel spiritual and sunday satan knocks you down. No, no , If the Spirit is in you, it is consistant, you will always be a new creature, always be at Peace. You will be like Christ, consistant, and unable to sin. The whole armour of God will be your natural state of being, you will always be joyful, not just part of the time. You won't be yourself anymore, you will be born again, a complettely different being!
And many have taken this for granted and " Become Kings before their time", because thats what most have been taught. And the " Period of restoration" that the bible speaks of to come, I think will mostly be a " Cleasnsing of the mind", because we have engulfed so much error into our believing consciousness, that our heads will need restoring.
Peace.
It is not that we are unable to sin. Paul said that believers are "dead to sin", but that does not mean we are unable to sin. To me it means that but DESIRE to HABITUAL and WILLFUL sin is dead, but slips are possible. As a matter of fact they are unavoidable. Every believer has sinned one way or another since their conversion. But yes, we are a new creation after we are born again. We do not enter eternal life when we die, we enter eternal life/kingdom of heaven the moment we are born again.
URs do not believe in choise, so if the embryos are building something, then they must have been told to do so. I don't know.....those kinds of theories are pretty far fetched, and usually end up crashing and burning in contradiction.
It's not a theory, Finn, it's an analogy. If you don't find it helpful, no harm, no foul.
At any rate, it is not true that URs do not believe in choice, and since it's off topic, no need to go further with it.
It's not a theory, Finn, it's an analogy. If you don't find it helpful, no harm, no foul.At any rate, it is not true that URs do not believe in choice, and since it's off topic, no need to go further with it.
He is here in spirit. Jesus promised to send the councelor, the Holy Spirit which is a part of God, and when the Spirit came, a part of the Kingdom came with it.
I do not believe Gods Spirit is here, because where his Spirit is, there is Peace, and Peace certainly is not here on earth. I don't believe that part of Gods Kingdom comes when his Spirit vists earth, I view the Kingdom of God as " Geographic", it is a literal Place where God lives. I think Gods Kingdom is not even in the same dimension as the physical world. If part of Gods Kingdom came to earth, Born again people could see it, including the Angels on earth now, and demons.
None of those things are seen. Not by men.
The Spirit of God is just so greatly " Coveted" by believers, they simply have claimed it before their time.
Peace.
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