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For those who voted its better that most go to hell and a few go to heaven, can you please explain why ?.
Do you really believe you are off the hook from the doctrine of the condemnation of the sinner you believe in,by the lip service of saying I believe in Jesus ?. Jesus did not demonstrate His love for you to appease the wrath of God, He demonstrated it that you by faith in His grace might walk the Way He walked. If you are not walking the Way He did, quit condemning the sinner, because you are no different and you are condemned by your own doctrines.
These verses seem to disagree with your assertion that Jesus did not come to save us from God's wrath. No?
1 John 4:10 "Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins."
Romans 5:9
Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him!
1 Thessalonians 1:10
and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.
But that He loved us....... His love is the propitiation for our sin. Why ? , when known and understood sin is no longer an issue between God and man and vica versa. Scripture ?.... No problem....Blessed is the man whose sin the Lord will never count against him."
His wrath is towards sin not the sinner. God because of His great love whether you believe it or not is incessantly speaking to the depth of the innermost being of all men, not in condemation, but in persuasion of His great heart of love, for His desire is to see all men walk in the Way of God and live life more abundantly. See the world through the eyes of God, scripture reads entirely different.
For those who voted its better that most go to hell and a few go to heaven, can you please explain why ?.
I vote to go to hell. I reject your god and your god's coercion, thinly-veiled as free will. The Christian god is not worthy of worship. Of course, this is all moot as there is no evidence of gods, a soul or an afterlife. This is the only life we have, the only chance we get, so I choose to not be anchored by a bunch of silly, superstitious belief.
But he who does not believe is condemned already, right? John 3:18-19. Believe -or- else! I choose not to, so god, what do you intend to do about it?
Most people I know who feel condemation are Christians living in failure. I would say it is the biggest issue in the mind of the Christian.
When you believe that God does not love you, it is for one reason only.......... a sin concious mind, which condemns you, this is why it says you are condemned already. It takes faith to believe that God not only loves Christians but the world too. Faith lifts the condemnation weighed upon the mind of man BY his sin conscious mind, God is not condemning anyone...... Just like John 3:18 states.
I vote to go to hell. I reject your god and your god's coercion, thinly-veiled as free will. The Christian god is not worthy of worship. Of course, this is all moot as there is no evidence of gods, a soul or an afterlife. This is the only life we have, the only chance we get, so I choose to not be anchored by a bunch of silly, superstitious belief.
Fair enough xx
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