A Sign or Something?

[mhans123]

So you really think that the God of the universe would choose to leave a statue of his son standing to give us a sign? Cause I'm sure there have been many churches that have been eradicated but those can't be signs from God surely?

[Choir Loft]

Originally Posted by sargentodiaz

Fires rage everywhere and this still stands.

Technically it's called an OMEN.

In the Bible, a SIGN is a direct response from God in the natural world. For example, Gideon asked for a sign from God in Judges 37. Gideon set out a fleece (sheep skin) and asked God to authorize his action by wetting or drying the fleece. It was done according to Gideon's request therefore allowing the man to act according to direct requested response from God. Signs are a form of two way communication. God sometimes speaks in terms of circumstances - not always a still small voice or booming holler from the sky. Circumstantial communication is the most difficult to perceive and understand.

In the Bible, an OMEN is a non-solicited event usually interpreted to indicate divine expression of intent, providence and/or participation in the affairs of men. For example, scriptural accounts of omens normally use birds to convey an unsolicited message. Noah received an omen from a dove that returned from its flight with an olive branch in it's beak. The omen indicated the end of flooding and the appearance of dry land. When Jesus was baptized a dove appeared to alight upon his head. The omen was interpreted to mean the Holy Spirit acknowledge Jesus' ministry office and person.

In the secular/pagan world an omen provides the same sort of one-way communication. Crop circles, for example, are assumed by some to be an omen from some non-human technology. UFO sightings may be assumed to fall into the same category.

Unless proven to be a deliberate fraud, an omen or a sign generally is perceived to have special meaning. Exactly what the meaning may be depends upon the persons involved.

With regard to the photo at the top of this thread, the event may be more accurately defined as an omen rather than a sign - unless of course you can discover certain individuals who actually prayed for this to happen.

and that's just me, hollering from the choir loft…

PS Some believe that the attack upon the WTC on 911 was an omen of God's judgment upon America - as well as being the planned action of men.

[Phil P]

It could be that the cross was made of metal or something.

[sargentodiaz]

Originally Posted by Phil P

It could be that the cross was made of metal or something.

The story clearly states that it was wooden.

A Sign or Something?

Something!

Looks to me that the area around it is cleared.

[Unsettomati]

Originally Posted by Shiloh1

A Sign or Something?

Something!

Looks to me that the area around it is cleared.

Indeed. The summit is mostly bare, with just short grass. That grass would be burnt in a moment, and is not nearly sufficient to sustain the flames long enough for the thick boards of the cross to catch fire.

Here's a close-up pic:

Dan's Hiking Pages: Garcia Trail - SimpsonCity.com

So, either the explanation is the perfectly obvious fact that the cross is surrounded by an effective firebreak, or... it's a sign...

Note: the pic is pre-burn

[expatCA]

Originally Posted by Unsettomati

Indeed. The summit is mostly bare, with just short grass. That grass would be burnt in a moment, and is not nearly sufficient to sustain the flames long enough for the thick boards of the cross to catch fire.

Here's a close-up pic:

Dan's Hiking Pages: Garcia Trail - SimpsonCity.com

So, either the explanation is the perfectly obvious fact that the cross is surrounded by an effective firebreak, or... it's a sign...

No evidence of burning around it, so just the lock of the draw as it wre. neither a sign or an omen.

Too many people want such to vindicate or confirm their belief and if such is needed, they are already of little or no faith at all.