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Old 03-18-2014, 02:18 PM
 
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nateswift: So, this from Leviticus doesn't mean sin offering as for atonement with God? It's more a price to pay for having sinned? So God was still mad at them after they had given the sacrifice, but they had to do it anyways?

Leviticus 5:6

As a penalty for the sin they have committed, they must bring to the LORD a female lamb or goat from
the flock as a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for them for their sin
... oops!

So you don't mean the lamb symbolizes Jesus as an offering to God for the sins of man, but that it symbolize the Paschal lamb, which is a sacrifice to show membership in community.

So can anyone draw a conclusion then? Or does anyone know for sure what it symbolizes? Cheers
The only requirement for membership is love of God; and each other.
And the Holy Spirit is the love of God, which revealed herself to mankind.

Much like that of "wives who love their husbands; and children."
Christ was never forsaken, and he said, "He would send the comforter!"

The LOVE OF GOD, which is an epithet of the HOLY SPIRIT.

There was never a need for a sacrifice, but we were shown the way.
And that we should not fear it; there is not one person who will not have to lay down his life.

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Old 03-18-2014, 02:42 PM
 
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nateswift: So, this from Leviticus doesn't mean sin offering as for atonement with God? It's more a price to pay for having sinned? So God was still mad at them after they had given the sacrifice, but they had to do it anyways?
Leviticus 5:6
As a penalty for the sin they have committed, they must bring to the LORD a female lamb or goat from
the flock as a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for them for their sin ... oops!
I was trying to see what the difference is between a "sin offerin" and a "guilt offering." They are different.
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Old 03-18-2014, 03:55 PM
 
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The only requirement for membership is love of God; and each other.
And the Holy Spirit is the love of God, which revealed herself to mankind.

Much like that of "wives who love their husbands; and children."
Christ was never forsaken, and he said, "He would send the comforter!"

The LOVE OF GOD, which is an epithet of the HOLY SPIRIT.

There was never a need for a sacrifice, but we were shown the way.
And that we should not fear it; there is not one person who will not have to lay down his life.
The holy trinity/family: The father, the son/child, and the mother. Now that's a thought...
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Old 03-18-2014, 04:01 PM
 
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The only requirement for membership is love of God; and each other.
And the Holy Spirit is the love of God, which revealed herself to mankind.

Much like that of "wives who love their husbands; and children."
Christ was never forsaken, and he said, "He would send the comforter!"


The LOVE OF GOD, an epithet of the HOLY SPIRIT/COMFORTER.

There was never a need for a sacrifice, but we were shown the way, truth and life.
And that we should not fear it; for there is not one person who will not have to lay down his life.
In other words, the lamb of God is the love of God; that takes away the sin/fear of humanity.
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Old 03-18-2014, 04:13 PM
 
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So, any conclusion ? Cheers
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Old 03-18-2014, 04:34 PM
 
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I was at a God-service around Yule, and in the ceiling there was painted a lamb, what does it symbolize?Or was it a sheep? Thanks
Symbolize as 1st Cor. 5 v 7 B says that Christ our Passover has been sacrificed.

Do you recall in the movie The Ten Commandments that a male sheep's blood was painted in the door frames and lintels ?
Then the family was to eat a meal of roasted lamb with unleavened bread on the Jewish month of Nisan day 14.

At Jesus' last Passover meal Jesus instituted a NEW observance for Christians, now Jesus would be the lamb.
Christ our Passover [ 1st Cor. 5 v 7; 11 v 23 ] was sacrificed on the same day as the Passover lamb was slaughtered.
So, the Passover observance which started in Egypt has meaning for us today.
The sprinkled blood on the door posts preserved the life of the Jewish people's first born.- Hebrews 12 vs 23,24
We today who hope to gain preserved or everlasting life depend on the blood of Jesus.- 1st John 5 v 7; Eph. 1 v 7.

When the lamb was slaughtered for that first Passover meal No bones were to be broken.
Jesus did Not have any of his bones broken at his death so that Passover lamb was a 'shadow ' or preview of what was to happen, or not happen, to Jesus as the sacrificial lamb.- Hebrews 10 v 1; Psalm 34 v 20
The Israelites partook of the lamb but Not its blood, so Jesus' flesh and blood [ bread and wine ] would be symbols for us to remember that first ' Good Friday ' which would be the anniversary date of Jesus' death.- Luke 22 v 19
Just as a wedding anniversary does Not fall on a Friday each year, the anniversary date of Jesus' death would Not fall on a Friday each year, but would be close to the modern-day Jewish Passover date.
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Old 03-18-2014, 07:16 PM
 
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The holy trinity/family: The father, the son/child, and the mother. Now that's a thought ...
A thought, yes ...not a trinity, but syntactically male and female yet without duality or separate constructions as we appear to have for procreation.
In other words: God is Holy, God is Spirit, which equates to the HOLY SPIRIT. The Scriptures or Bible are riddled with Symbolism and Morphemes.

"If humanities fruit of the Spirit is consumed with dark-tunnels, they obviously have apple maggots."

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Old 03-18-2014, 08:13 PM
 
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A thought, yes ...not a trinity, but syntactically male and female yet without duality or separate constructions as we appear to have for procreation.
In other words: God is Holy, God is Spirit, which equates to the HOLY SPIRIT. The Scriptures or Bible are riddled with Symbolism and Morphemes.

"If humanities fruit of the Spirit is consumed with dark-tunnels, they obviously have apple maggots."
The post was intended to be a good-natured banter with "the doctrine of trinity" crowd...nothing more.

off topic...I know. Sorry!
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:19 PM
 
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The post was intended to be a good-natured banter with "the doctrine of trinity" crowd...nothing more.
I understood that, but thought I would shake that tree.
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:26 PM
 
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So can anyone draw a conclusion then? Or does anyone know for sure what it symbolizes? Cheers
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So, any conclusion ? Cheers
The glass is either half-empty or half-full.

CHEERS!

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