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Old 07-05-2014, 07:17 PM
 
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The final world power--the two horned beast( eagle-lion)
Revelation 13 v 2 mentions: like a leopard, bear and lion, and Satan [ dragon ] gives authority.

The another political beast of verse 11 speaks as a dragon, and it has 2 lamb's horns on its beastly head.
The political becomes an ' image ' of that symbolic beast - verses 14,15
With backing the Untied Nations can be strengthened to be that political image representing the world's political groups, and prove to be that ' 8th king ' of Revelation 17 v 11. Jesus, as the Lamb of verse 14, will act in ' two shakes of a lamb's tail ' so to speak, to save the righteous of Matthew 25 vs 31,32,37 - to be saved alive [ Rev. 7 v 14 ] right into the start of Jesus' 1000-year kingdom reign over Earth when Jesus will usher in global Peace on Earth among men of goodwill.
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Old 07-05-2014, 07:21 PM
 
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The Lion will lay down with the Lamb.
....and the wolf will also dwell with the lamb - Isaiah 11 vs 4-9; Isaiah chapter 35; Isaiah 65 v 25: Psalm 72 v 8
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Old 07-06-2014, 11:55 AM
 
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In Scripture there is No one person anti-Christ. However, the clerical man of sin of 2nd Thess. 2 vs 2-8 is the composite ' man of the cloth ' who sits themselves in the ' temple ' [ houses of worship ] as if he is God when in reality they are anti-God.
I believe I clearly stated he was often-times called the anti-Christ. I thought I made that clear enough and he is often-times called that so my statement requires no correction.
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Old 07-06-2014, 11:57 AM
 
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In hell too with Jesus ?_________
Jesus went to the Bible's hell the day he died - Acts 2 vs 27,31,32.
Jesus taught unconscious sleep in death - John 11 vs 11-14
Jesus was well educated in the Hebrew OT Scriptures which also teach sleep in death
- Ecclesiastes 9 v 5; Psalms 6 v 5; 13 v 3; 115 v 17; 146 v 4; Daniel 12 vs 2,13
So, while in the Bible's temporary hell [ grave ] Jesus was in a sleep-like state or condition.
According to Revelation 20 vs 13,14 everyone in the Bible's temporary hell will be ' delivered up ' out of hell.
Once everyone is delivered up meaning resurrected out of hell, then biblical hell is emptied out, and vacant hell is cast into a symbolic ' second death ' for vacated temporary biblical hell.

What choice did Jesus give at John 3 v 16 ? wasn't it life or perish [ be destroyed ] ?
2nd Peter 3 v 9 also mentions repent or perish [ be destroyed ]
Meaning as Psalm 92 v 7 says the wicked will be ' destroyed forever ' [ Not burn in some religious-myth hell teaching ]
I was using the common understanding of hell if it matters. It was a joke after all!
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Old 07-06-2014, 12:15 PM
 
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If you read the Prophecies of Daniel carefully, you will come to the realization that he is indeed calling out America as that last great empire before the return of Christ, when he was describing the Statue in King Nebchadnezzar's dream?

"Feet of Iron mixed with miry clay but not cleaving to the other" - Speaking of the various nations that live in America during the end times who all follow their own GOD's and religious doctrines.

We have this now in America. from Hindus to Muslims to Shintaoists to Buddhists to Baptists to Atheists to Catholics to Agnostics to Satanists...

The melting pot of the world's cultures, doctrines and religions. the vision of Daniel. The LAST Empire before the return of Christ.

Yes indeed.
The answer is no. Prophecy is another strawman to assist so called Christians to avoid the only thing Jesus was ever clear about---love your God and your neighbor, be thankful for the provisions you have for today, and leave all the rest up to Him.
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Old 07-06-2014, 09:18 PM
 
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The answer is no. Prophecy is another strawman to assist so called Christians to avoid the only thing Jesus was ever clear about---love your God and your neighbor, be thankful for the provisions you have for today, and leave all the rest up to Him.
Amen! Christianity has so perverted and confused Christ's Gospel of love that it only breeds division and separation . . . not love and unity in the Spirit that is agape love. God IS Spirit and God IS agape love. The ONE Spirit that should unite us all regardless who we are or what we do . . . is the Spirit of agape love. But they fight and argue and create discord and dissension over trivialities of belief about Christ and God ignoring Christ's instructions to "love God and each other." It is a travesty, Warden.
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Old 07-07-2014, 07:59 AM
 
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The answer is no. Prophecy is another strawman to assist so called Christians to avoid the only thing Jesus was ever clear about---love your God and your neighbor, be thankful for the provisions you have for today, and leave all the rest up to Him.
This is not true. Yeshua mandated/required a LOT of things concerning The House of Israel. the heathen, on the otherhand, can do whatever they wish since they'll be destroyed anyway.
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:02 AM
 
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Amen! Christianity has so perverted and confused Christ's Gospel of love that it only breeds division and separation . . . not love and unity in the Spirit that is agape love. God IS Spirit and God IS agape love. The ONE Spirit that should unite us all regardless who we are or what we do . . . is the Spirit of agape love. But they fight and argue and create discord and dissension over trivialities of belief about Christ and God ignoring Christ's instructions to "love God and each other." It is a travesty, Warden.

GOD's promises to Yeshua and the House of Israel are "agape love" indeed. the rest of the Nations have no such love from the Most High. You have to read your Bible with mor understanding.

Isaiah 40:17

"All the nations are as nothing before him, they are accounted by him as less "
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:17 AM
 
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If you read the Prophecies of Daniel carefully, you will come to the realization that he is indeed calling out America as that last great empire before the return of Christ, when he was describing the Statue in King Nebchadnezzar's dream?

"Feet of Iron mixed with miry clay but not cleaving to the other" - Speaking of the various nations that live in America during the end times who all follow their own GOD's and religious doctrines.

We have this now in America. from Hindus to Muslims to Shintaoists to Buddhists to Baptists to Atheists to Catholics to Agnostics to Satanists...

The melting pot of the world's cultures, doctrines and religions. the vision of Daniel. The LAST Empire before the return of Christ.

Yes indeed.
No one knows for sure, but to me the toes of iron and clay which do not mix would fit the European Union, which is an entity of many different countries (toes) and cultures which are united, but different, and do not mix.

You mention Hindus to Muslims to Shintaoists to Buddhists in US, but have hardly any of them, and the ones we do have mix so well that you won't even notice them.
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:24 AM
 
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This is not true. Yeshua mandated/required a LOT of things concerning The House of Israel. the heathen, on the otherhand, can do whatever they wish since they'll be destroyed anyway.
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Jesus is not out to destroy evil men, He is coming to separate men from evil. It is another stage in God's plan to move men from where they were after Adam fell, to where they will be for eternity, as His sons and daughters.
By trumpethim on the thread The Rise of Christian fundamentalism and the World Wars
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