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Recently Pope Francis has met with televangelists Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, James Robison, Mormon U.S. Senator Mike Lee, pastor Tim Timmons, and evangelical college president Gayle Beebe. James Robison said they found common ground in caring for the poor.
Recently I was in a small community Heppner, Oregon for a cardiologist appointment. Afterwards, my wife and I walked the town, it's that small. As we walked down Church Street, several churches of different denomination sat on four blocks. I noticed all the churches looked very similar. In the town's museum I read that in 1903 a flood wiped out all but one church which was up higher. Over the next year all the various congregants pitched in and rebuilt each church.
Back to the recent meetings between Pope Francis. Someone wrote on James Robison's website, "Very disappointed in you James and Betty. Never forget the Inquisition — Never forget!"
Should we be like those small town Christians in 1903 and work together or like the poster on James Robison's website?
The small town churches seem to have realized that the overall community was more important than the difference in beliefs about God. The work of the kingdom is moe important than that OR history of abuses.
I can understand the writer of that letter to James Robison, and I dislike too much of what is called ecumenism, when you combine heresy with Christianity. and I do remember the Inquisition and how the protestants were martyrd and tortured, etc...
But in a situation where it is not religious work and they are all coming together to rebuild a community, then I see no harm.
But if I were asked to go to an interfaith church service, I would have to refuse if it were the above ministers presiding. AND especially I would not go to one that includes a Muslim or Buddhist and their prayers. I would walk out if and when I saw such a person go to the podium.
Why don't they educate each other instead. I'd love to see them argue their individual differences with each other, since they put so much stock in them.
What would they work together for? How would they "help the poor together" that they can't do separately... It would confuse the poor and then the poor wouldn't choose a denomination, they would just settle for some nebulous mantra about how "believing in Jesus" is all they need, regardless of what they think "believing in Jesus" is supposed to mean.
Good idea Chicago, I think I'll start walking out of prayers/hope speeches that include Christians (especially the hateful intolerant ones). Oh, wait, I'm not... because I actually have a measure of civility, virtue, and self-control. Then again, it might not be a bad idea to demonstrate my discontent... whinny babies always get looked after better then silent ones.
Why don't they educate each other instead. I'd love to see them argue their individual differences with each other, since they put so much stock in them.
What would they work together for? How would they "help the poor together" that they can't do separately... It would confuse the poor and then the poor wouldn't choose a denomination, they would just settle for some nebulous mantra about how "believing in Jesus" is all they need, regardless of what they think "believing in Jesus" is supposed to mean.
Good idea Chicago, I think I'll start walking out of prayers/hope speeches that include Christians (especially the hateful intolerant ones). Oh, wait, I'm not... because I actually have a measure of civility, virtue, and self-control. Then again, it might not be a bad idea to demonstrate my discontent... whinny babies always get looked after better then silent ones.
I think - in social matters like a bunch of different religious people building homes for some needy person, no problem. I think when the hurricanes hit, there were different church groups helping which was great!
In matters of religion, I cannot sit and listen to someone tell me about the teachings of Buddha or Islam because they are contrary to what I believe, in way that is not ok with me. so I would walk out.
It does not mean I am intolerant, it means I don't believe in it and would not sit and listen.
And you do have the right to walk out of any church that you too disagree with. It does not mean you are uncivil.
NOT working together is why there are all the various denominations of Chrisitanity in the first place.
So to ask if they can work together is a terrible oxymoron. but the answer is "NO" because they will all be dstroyed for teaching and practicing false doctrines and not the doctrine found in the The Holy Bible.
NOT working together is why there are all the various denominations of Chrisitanity in the first place.
So to ask if they can work together is a terrible oxymoron. but the answer is "NO" because they will all be dstroyed for teaching and practicing false doctrines and not the doctrine found in the The Holy Bible.
What did Christians do before the NT canon was put together?
What did Christians do before the NT canon was put together?
They hated the truth and had Yeshua tortured to death. "Church" was the last thing on their minds.
None of those so-called followers of Christ stood up for him when it was time to except the Apostles who were also hunted and beheaded or crucified. therefore his fiery anger will burn them alive when he returns.
What did Christians do before the NT canon was put together?
This might surprise you, there was a" Bible" before the NT canon was put together .... it was referred to as scriptures
Normally when one asks the question like you did, then it would certainly be plausible that one doesn't know what constitutes scriptures.
Well once again we're so fortunate that the Bible self defines what they are:
Luke 24:27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he [Jesus] explained to them what was said in all theScriptures concerning himself.
Luke 24:44 He [Jesus] said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”
then the NT Christians had these available, Peter placing Paul's letters on the same level as scriptures .....
2 Peter 3:16
He writes the same way in all his letters, speaking in them of these matters. His letters contain some things that are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the other Scriptures, to their own destruction.
and being " Scripture cannot be broken" John 10:35 .... means when Paul writes in 1 Timothy 5:18 referencing to Luke 10:7 on the same level as Deut. 25:4, then that makes Lukes' letter scripture.
then Peter completes the circle when he writes:
2 Peter 1:21For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man,but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
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