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Old 08-27-2014, 02:15 PM
 
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I was not talking about the Bible, I was talking about Gary's contradicting statements.
I was talking about PARADOXES. Perhaps you don't understand what a paradox is. You changed the topic.

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Old 08-27-2014, 04:03 PM
 
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See man can believe anything he wants , but if you need to listen what Jesus says and the Word of God then from Luke 13;2-5 Jesus said ........``Suppose you that these Galileans, were sinners above all the Galileans , because they suffered such things? I Tell You Nay, but except you repent , You will all likewise perish ........Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them , think you that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem ? I Tell You, Nay , but , except you repent you will all likewise perish ...``....... See Jesus taught on the Holy Spirit and He taught on end times , and the cross of Christ does not change the command to repent for life or don`t repent and perish....So you can listen to the watered down interpretation of rejecting God command to repent of sin , as all are saved any way , or you can believe what Jesus the Messiah Son of the Living God says and this is held up By His Holy Spirit who says ....`the soul will die if lost to God as there is no protection ``
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Old 08-27-2014, 04:10 PM
 
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See man can believe anything he wants , but if you need to listen what Jesus says and the Word of God then from Luke 13;2-5 Jesus said ........``Suppose you that these Galileans, were sinners above all the Galileans , because they suffered such things? I Tell You Nay, but except you repent , You will all likewise perish ........Or those eighteen on whom the tower in Siloam fell, and slew them , think you that they were sinners above all men that dwelt in Jerusalem ? I Tell You, Nay , but , except you repent you will all likewise perish ...``....... See Jesus taught on the Holy Spirit and He taught on end times , and the cross of Christ does not change the command to repent for life or don`t repent and perish....So you can listen to the watered down interpretation of rejecting God command to repent of sin , as all are saved any way , or you can believe what Jesus the Messiah Son of the Living God says and this is held up By His Holy Spirit who says ....`the soul will die if lost to God as there is no protection ``
But your problem is that you are not dealing with all the scriptures that say God will have all to be saved. You are just cherry picking one scripture that says people will perish if they do not repent to build an entire myth around = the myth that to perish means to burn in hell for all eternity. That is adding to God's Word. Many people are perishing. They will be hurt in the judgement or 2nd death.

You have to deal with these 100 scriptures:
http://www.tentmaker.org/books/ScripturalProofs.html

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Old 08-27-2014, 04:21 PM
 
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I was talking about PARADOXES. Perhaps you don't understand what a paradox is. You changed the topic.
lol Hell exists, but it is empty.....actually hell is just a pagan myth......oh, and by the way, this is a paradox.... Basically he spoke for 13 minutes, contradicted himself, and failed to explain the paradox. Why is his opinion the "truth" again?
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Old 08-27-2014, 04:34 PM
 
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Hell DOES exist or Jesus would not have warned people so much about it.

By the way. God does not send us to hell, we do by rejecting God.
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Old 08-27-2014, 05:07 PM
 
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In 13 minutes the "gospel of Gary" theaches two things:

1. Hell exists
2. Hell is a pagan invention

Interesting.
No paradox.

Hell/sheol/hades is the grave. The dead go there.

Hell as a place of torment and a dual location, is a pagan myth not based on the Bible.
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Old 08-27-2014, 07:23 PM
 
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Jesus never taught eternal hell. God bless.
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Old 08-27-2014, 07:35 PM
 
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lol Hell exists, but it is empty.....actually hell is just a pagan myth......oh, and by the way, this is a paradox.... Basically he spoke for 13 minutes, contradicted himself, and failed to explain the paradox. Why is his opinion the "truth" again?
No, Finn, you need to re-listen because Gary said hell would be emptied by Jesus, not that it is presently empty. As you know, I believe we are born into hell (this world which is the realm of death and suffering and much torment). There is all manner of torment going on in this world that you do not see. Apparently you don't give it too much thought either. Otherwise you would not find this a laughing matter. I also can't take anyone seriously who teaches that the vast majority of human souls are going to be tortured by God in the afterlife who in the same breath can LOL and post a grinning smiley. You apparently were never very worried about such a horrific predicament for your fellow brothers and sisters. There is nothing glorious about your beliefs.
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:00 PM
 
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Jesus never taught eternal hell. God bless.
There is eternal hell when you reject God. There is purgatory when you need to do penance for the sins you committed before getting into heaven. That is temporary but not eternal.
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Old 08-27-2014, 08:08 PM
 
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There is eternal hell when you reject God. There is purgatory when you need to do penance for the sins you committed before getting into heaven. That is temporary but not eternal.
janelle - considering that you are a zealous member of the Orthodox Catholic Church, I really can't expect you to think for yourself on any of these matters.
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