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Old 09-03-2014, 08:35 PM
 
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Here is what Jesus said about the people that are given the kingdom of God. They produce the fruits of the kingdom.

Matthew 21:43 NRSA
Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people that produces the fruits of the kingdom.

Don't you think this verse is speaking about a works based theology?

What do you think the fruits of the kingdom are?
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:28 PM
 
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Here is what Jesus said about the people that are given the kingdom of God. They produce the fruits of the kingdom.
Matthew 21:43 NRSA
Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people that produces the fruits of the kingdom.
Don't you think this verse is speaking about a works based theology?
What do you think the fruits of the kingdom are?
It is NOT the spouting of Bible verses all day long. It is "Love God and each other" daily and repent when you don't.
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:13 PM
 
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Here is what Jesus said about the people that are given the kingdom of God. They produce the fruits of the kingdom.

Matthew 21:43 NRSA
Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people that produces the fruits of the kingdom.

Don't you think this verse is speaking about a works based theology?

What do you think the fruits of the kingdom are?

It is always a good idea to read verses before and after to gain the full understanding as this is a parable that was meant for the Pharisees
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:27 PM
 
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It is NOT the spouting of Bible verses all day long. It is "Love God and each other" daily and repent when you don't.
So how is that remaining in His word and continuing in His word to go into the world as He was sent? He was sent to spread the truth the word of God.
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:36 PM
 
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It is always a good idea to read verses before and after to gain the full understanding as this is a parable that was meant for the Pharisees
There was a parable before that statement, correct. But the verse in the OP is not part of the parable.

Care to answer the questions? Or not.
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:50 PM
 
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There was a parable before that statement, correct. But the verse in the OP is not part of the parable.

Care to answer the questions? Or not.
No, that verse is part of the parable. It is about obedience
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:50 PM
 
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The parable refers to the coming change (at that time) where God's focus would be on the Gentile nations rather that the Jews as it had been up to that point.

This change took place at Pentecost.
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:58 PM
 
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You have to break the parable down and define the vineyards, the landowners,tenants, and servants etc. to get the gist of the parable.
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Old 09-04-2014, 08:07 AM
 
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No, that verse is part of the parable. It is about obedience
The parable is about obedience but Jesus was speaking directly to the priests and elders in that statement. The parable was a story about others but was really speaking about them. So I disagree that it was part of the parable because Jesus was speaking directly to them not about others as the parable did..
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Old 09-04-2014, 08:57 AM
 
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Here is what Jesus said about the people that are given the kingdom of God. They produce the fruits of the kingdom.

Matthew 21:43 NRSA
Therefore I tell you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people that produces the fruits of the kingdom.

Don't you think this verse is speaking about a works based theology?

What do you think the fruits of the kingdom are?
This will be interesting as it speaks of:

Produces, thus evidence
Fruits, more than just claimed love but action
Kingdom, which includes allegiance, obedient and the promoting of that kingdom

It isn't a works based theology it is an active life with works of faith in obedience to God and His Son. Producing fruits.
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