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Without knowing the details of your coversation, or your history with this church/pastor, it's impossible to comment. However, our pastors are very approachable and would not call for security unless they felt a threat to their person or the church in general. As I said, our security team consists of members, who care about the church as much as the average Joe member.
Lakewood is 4 times bigger than my church, in the fourth largest city in America. Big difference.
There is no sermon of the old pastor that I have not listened to ten times.
It was just between a conversion as you say.
I didn't know much in those days, and my communication skills are horrendous.
But they had no reason to do what they did, my forgiveness to them comes from understanding.
I can only guess they had dealt with a lot a bad crazy people, but I was not one of them, not a threat.
It was the simply fact that I had presented a simple question that the assistant could not answer.
The idea that I presented could not be allowed to be present among members.
I think it was their policy to drive away people that had other ideas, what choice would they have?
Perhaps you should have scheduled an appointment to discuss your question.
I went to the least and youngest, there were many associate pastors.
It could have turned out no other way, I was still a Christian then.
Mega churches exists for one reason, it's what the majority wants to hear.
Once a mega church becomes a Mega church, they have no choice but to do away with the people who read the bible and ask honest questions.
Even small churches reign and rule over people like God's and if one dares to ask a simply, reasonable question about truth, the pastor who would be king, must do something.
I went to the least and youngest, there were many associate pastors.
It could have turned out no other way, I was still a Christian then.
Mega churches exists for one reason, it's what the majority wants to hear.
Once a mega church becomes a Mega church, they have no choice but to do away with the people who read the bible and ask honest questions.
Even small churches reign and rule over people like God's and if one dares to ask a simply, reasonable question about truth, the pastor who would be king, must do something.
I have been asked to leave a few churches because I dared ask questions. I do not regret the experience.
I have been asked to leave a few churches because I dared ask questions. I do not regret the experience.
I don't regret it either.
I have had sermons preached against, told my Mom one time and she said it was my imagination, then I took her to church one time, and she watched it happen.
Years later, she watched it happen again, and I hadn't said anything in those two churches.
If you really have a true heart, God knows it, and because he knows it, people are going to hate you.
They have a discernment just as the people of God have discernment.
On the one hand, you are a prophet, a priest, and a king.
On the other hand you have a false prophet, a false priest, and a false Queen.
Two kingdoms in either of your hands, and both know the other.
Better not let the one hand know what the other is doing.
I went to the least and youngest, there were many associate pastors.
It could have turned out no other way, I was still a Christian then.
Mega churches exists for one reason, it's what the majority wants to hear.
Once a mega church becomes a Mega church, they have no choice but to do away with the people who read the bible and ask honest questions.
Even small churches reign and rule over people like God's and if one dares to ask a simply, reasonable question about truth, the pastor who would be king, must do something.
What nonsense! My mega-church has Bible studies galore, where believers study Scripture and discuss difficult questions we all have. No one tells us what to believe. We are free to come and go, if we believe differently.
Then you don't appreciate the limitations of a system that would encourage policing in the church. It is a hierarchical system that has to be protected, because of a lack of belief in its efficacy as a vulnerable entity. A system to be served, rather than one that serves, and nor can it do so, to the empowerment of individual members of the body. They'll build you up so far as long as they can have the last say, and commission/release you out the door into your own 'ministry'.
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