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Old 02-23-2015, 04:33 PM
 
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I agree that you are. Punishment for the sake of punishment can never make right out of a wrong. In general, people have an eye for an eye mentality thinking that seeing someone punished for the wrongs done to them is justice and will somehow make things right. It doesn't. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. So, if Gods ways truly are higher than man's ways, don't you think God would have a system in place that actually accomplishes making things right and restores people?




I'm not asking you to compare God to anything. I'm asking you to look at your beliefs about punishment.
You don't understand something though. God can do anything He wants, He can cause you to experience any possible experience. He can shatter your entire concept of reality and ego in an instant. People use drugs to alter their reality, drugs do not even compare to God who can actually alter your reality and existence and your concept of time and your body or whatever else thing He decided to do.
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:37 PM
 
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But even if He just punishes everybody and wipes us out, that is His choice. Just be thankful for the days you have been given. His wrath will not endure for eternity. He will not allow sin to exist for all eternity.
Here's what I say to that... If, before we are wiped out, we experience a restored relationship with all those who we have harmed and who have harmed us, I will certainly be thankful. But if god just punishes all of us because that's all god can do, there's not much to be thankful to god for.
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:38 PM
 
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Any specifics?
Genesis for starters. All of it.
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:38 PM
 
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God doesn't want anyone to perish. He doesn't want to destroy anyone. But justice will be served and sin will be put an end to. He will destroy everyone who is not in the book of life. He will punish wicked men. Thats all there is to it, it's not beneficial for me to speculate on everything God will do and what judgement will include
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:40 PM
 
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You don't understand something though. God can do anything He wants, He can cause you to experience any possible experience. He can shatter your entire concept of reality and ego in an instant. People use drugs to alter their reality, drugs do not even compare to God who can actually alter your reality and existence and your concept of time and your body or whatever else thing He decided to do.
So, god operates through sleight of hand and illusion?
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:41 PM
 
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God doesn't want anyone to perish. He doesn't want to destroy anyone. But justice will be served and sin will be put an end to. He will destroy everyone who is not in the book of life. He will punish wicked men. Thats all there is to it, it's not beneficial for me to speculate on everything God will do and what judgement will include
I am expecting a fifty word essay, tops.
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:41 PM
 
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[quote=Hezakial Malanoch;38517629[B]]If you want to believe that nonsense and compromise yourself into slavery and death, then you are given that option.[/b] We are to be a holy people and priests unto God.

Yes, the possibility of sin still exists for the saints, yet they will never choose it willingly.
It is possible through the Holy Spirit if you walk by the Spirit instead of by the flesh.

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You also have the very same option to believe your nonsense and compromise yourself into slavery and death.

See how easy that is?
You have your belief the other poster has their belief because you each has a choice and one is not "right" over the other.
Your belief is right for you and the other poster's belief is right for them.

I do have a slight feeling you will choose to argue the facts in the words you wrote until the purple cows come home and sing blue moon.
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:42 PM
 
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God doesn't want anyone to perish. He doesn't want to destroy anyone. But justice will be served and sin will be put an end to. He will destroy everyone who is not in the book of life. He will punish wicked men. Thats all there is to it, it's not beneficial for me to speculate on everything God will do and what judgement will include
You think God will be forced to do something God doesn't want to do? God is subservient to man's idea of justice (eye for an eye?)
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:48 PM
 
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Genesis for starters. All of it.
Based on what? Mainstream science theories by a few men who want to be famous and wealthy? They are no different than all these false preachers teaching a bunch of nonsense to fill their churches and get rich and famous off of gullible men and women. Atheism is a religion, evolution is a theory based off of that religion. There is no evidence that God does not exist. They start on that presupposition and interpret the evidence according to it. No matter what they observe, they will never challenge the original presupposition that God does not exist. So of course all their theories will support that conclusion. There is absolutely no proof that evolution is true. In fact it is literally littered with massive gaps and inconsistences. Yet they will never abandon it. Why? Because it is the only thing they have to cling to. They have nothing else. Evolution is a sinking ship that becomes more and more obviously in error the more science advances.

Any "scientific" theory which claims that God does not exist is a theory which has stepped outside the realm of science and into the realm of science fiction. All these mainstream "Scientists" who run around claiming the concept of God is for the ignorant, have automatically lost all credibility. They have no proof and prove they are biased. Since when is science based on assumptions instead of proof? They are pushing an agenda.
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Old 02-23-2015, 04:51 PM
 
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Carbon dating is based off of the assumption that the earth has been around long enough for the half life of carbon to be reached and surpassed many many times over. If that assumption was false, then so would all of their interpretations of the data
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