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Old 02-21-2015, 02:49 PM
 
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1 John 1:8
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Another problem with Christianity. You like calling people liars. I think it is more projection. You are the sinner, the fornicator, the adulterer, the liar and unrighteous, and so must everyone else.

It is the whole mote and beam thing. A flaw I tell you. Big flaw.
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Old 02-21-2015, 03:43 PM
 
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Truth is truth, it is not dependent on the actions or thoughts of anyone. The verses I shared are not my words. It is not me whom you have the problem with.
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:16 PM
 
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Another one.

Oh joy.
Holy Crap!!!...That is exactly what I thought as I read the post...
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:19 PM
 
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The true gospel is not preached in the majority of churches nor by the majority of preachers in the media!

Countless millions of "Christians" believe, even at this very moment, that reciting a sinners prayer, "trusting in Christ" and going to "church" on Sunday and singing to songs to God will assure their salvation. Many think they will be saved because they tithe, speak in tongues or witness to people they meet.

Jesus and the Word of God make it very clear: That will not assure your salvation!

Matthew 7:21-23
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

If you consider yourself a Christian, yet enjoy the pleasures of the world and willfully continue to commit sins (even internal sinful thoughts), you are deceived! True repentance and conversion is evident by the putting to death the ways of the flesh. If you still are a slave to the ways of the flesh, then you were never truly converted. You might as well just stop calling yourself a Christian and stop attending church because it is not benefiting you. God is not fooled by your fake "faith".

Not only that, but God makes it clear that you should not even be allowed in the church:

1 Corinthians 5:9-13
9 I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. 11 But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. 12 For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church[b] whom you are to judge? 13 God judges[c] those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.

If your "church" and your "pastor" has not made this crystal clear to you, then they are as lost as could be. They are either ignorant of the Bible, love their sin, or are swindling you for your silly tithe money while enjoying unBiblical positions of power and respect over you.

Repent/turn from your wickedness my brothers and sisters!

Watch these video for more information that will lead you to salvation!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I-pC56IPaA


http://youtu.be/Z8o1MEz2xFk

Matthew 7
Enter through the narrow gate; for the gate is wide and the way is broad that leads to destruction, and there are many who enter through it. 14"For the gate is small and the way is narrow that leads to life, and there are few who find it.
But, yet Yeshua sat with those very same types of people...
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:20 PM
 
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A true conversion is proven by works. The works of first, repenting/turning from sin. You notice how I use a "/" to separate repenting and turning from sin instead of "repenting and turning from sin"? That is because they are one and the same thing. You do not understand the meaning of the word repentance.

James 2
What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good[b] is that? 17 So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! 20 Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless?

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True repentance is not turning from your sin and forgetting it...But turning from it and remembering it the rest of your life...
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:25 PM
 
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Twist twist twist.

(2Cor 5:17)Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

Is this what it always must come to? - "Do you think you are sinless, Hezakial?"

Am I a hypocrite if I say with a clear conscience that I am one of the saints? I lean on the Spirit and have put to death the ways of the flesh.

I will not consider myself a slave to sin as you would have the saints do.
Boy...Are you gonna have a hard fall...
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:27 PM
 
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Matthew 5:27
“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ 28 But I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lustful intent has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29 If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body be thrown into hell. 30 And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. For it is better that you lose one of your members than that your whole body go into hell.

Matthew 5:10
10 “Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

11 “Blessed are you when others revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward is great in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

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I am not against you friends, but this is the stance we are called to take. Anything less is worthless.

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Revelation 3:14
14 “And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God's creation.
15 “‘I know your works: you are neither cold nor hot. Would that you were either cold or hot! 16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I will spit you out of my mouth. 17 For you say, I am rich, I have prospered, and I need nothing, not realizing that you are wretched, pitiable, poor, blind, and naked. 18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined by fire, so that you may be rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself and the shame of your nakedness may not be seen, and salve to anoint your eyes, so that you may see. 19 Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline, so be zealous and repent. 20 Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me. 21 The one who conquers, I will grant him to sit with me on my throne, as I also conquered and sat down with my Father on his throne. 22 He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.’”

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The Cost of Discipleship
Luke 14:25-33
25 Now great crowds accompanied him, and he turned and said to them, 26 “If anyone comes to me and does not hate his own father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters, yes, and even his own life, he cannot be my disciple. 27 Whoever does not bear his own cross and come after me cannot be my disciple. 28 For which of you, desiring to build a tower, does not first sit down and count the cost, whether he has enough to complete it? 29 Otherwise, when he has laid a foundation and is not able to finish, all who see it begin to mock him, 30 saying, ‘This man began to build and was not able to finish.’ 31 Or what king, going out to encounter another king in war, will not sit down first and deliberate whether he is able with ten thousand to meet him who comes against him with twenty thousand? 32 And if not, while the other is yet a great way off, he sends a delegation and asks for terms of peace. 33 So therefore, any one of you who does not renounce all that he has cannot be my disciple.
You really don't understand metaphors, do you?...
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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This is silliness. If you are in willful sin, then repent. If you cannot repent, ask God for the ability to repent.
If you are not in willful sin, than what is the issue? Do you not realize that the majority can be and is usually wrong?
HaShem is the only one that can grant repentance...IOW, He allows you to repent...If He doesn't then you don't...
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:33 PM
 
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I am sharing the Word of God so that some who read it may live.

We are to be conformed to Christ. That doesn't mean to simply ask Him into your heart and go about your way.
That means be just like Him. Take up your cross daily and follow Him. If people do not understand this, they will not be able to stand against the ways of the world, they will not be able to stand against the ways and messages of the modern "church".

We do not compromise, because we do not have to and do not want to.
Do you follow Torah?...Where do you Daven at?...Do you follow Kashrut?...Do you do your Mitzvot?...
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:35 PM
 
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What you are posting sounds more like a confession. Telling others they are sinning while .. ahem.. cleverly hiding your own. Your secret is safe with me.

So, you have to confess your sins in bible verse? You underlined your favorite, dog eared part. What is that besides a confession of your sins? I read the whole lusting after women thing. What were you doing that makes you want to cut off your hand?
Usually someone that comes on like this has grievously sinned in what they are preaching about and this is their penance...
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