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When I was an atheist the last thing I had any desire to discuss was Jesus, for example.
I do think it is unnecessary for atheists to come in a thread in a Christian forum to say how the belief in God is silly or to ask posters to prove God exists. It is one thing to have people in a Christian forum discuss their different beliefs about God, but they should not feel like they have to defend their belief in God in this section of the forum.
I agree. I have said this in the past and it has been shunned. If you don't like people proselytizing, then coming on here to defend a belief in God because you question it, isn't too far off from being the same. I don't have any issues with the questions, but I think there is a time and place for those and it's not the Christianity forum, in my opinion.
I don't really address Jesus. Its about addressing how people process information. "Jesus" is a tool do discuss that. In chemistry class they can use 'water".
for me religion is not the problem. "literal people" are the problem. "literal" people are dangerous. next thing I see is how science is butchered. I mean they teach the grand canyon shows a young earth? that kind of teaching is dangerous. Its insanity really. But again it gets back to people.I don't buy into the imaginary beast thingies. Religion or a bearded dude pointing his figure at me.
Yes, I am insecure about my beliefs. Everything I "believe" I retest to see if it is valid and how conditions those beliefs hold up to. They may not feel good (causing angst), but they are valid. I wish I could cop out and "feel good".
Why are literal people an issue? Can you elaborate?
So you were around thousands of years ago to confirm their validity? There isn't any beliefs in this world that extends beyond our own time on this earth that doesn't take some degree of faith. If you didn't witness it, then you are relying on something to confirm it. Certainly an event can be detailed, but the accuracy of your understanding is always subject to the source of which you get it from. Ask Brian Williams.
The point is, given the beliefs of some of the frequent non-Christian believers that come on this section as often as they do, is it really that interesting to debate these topics, or are you really just that insecure about what you believe that you feel that you need to find a thread of error to make you believe something is wrong with Christianity. It's not the people's beliefs which they believe are right that make me scratch my head, it's the people that believe they have to prove your beliefs are wrong, that makes me not only scratch my head, but also wonder how insecure they are about their own beliefs.
Oh, believe me, that cuts both ways. Why do believers challenge non-believers?
I used to hang out at the Religion and Spirituality forum at Yahoo! Answers. A variation of "atheists, why are you here?" came up at least once an hour. It was as if the religious expected to be able to discuss their beliefs in a vacuum. But what is atheism but a stance on religion and spirituality? And for as much as they didn't seem to want atheists around, they continued to constantly ask the atheists questions.
It would be nice if people could just live and let live, though.
When I was an atheist the last thing I had any desire to discuss was Jesus, for example.
I do think it is unnecessary for atheists to come in a thread in a Christian forum to say how the belief in God is silly or to ask posters to prove God exists. It is one thing to have people in a Christian forum discuss their different beliefs about God, but they should not feel like they have to defend their belief in God in this section of the forum.
Couldn't have stated the last paragraph any better.
When I was an atheist the last thing I had any desire to discuss was Jesus, for example.
I do think it is unnecessary for atheists to come in a thread in a Christian forum to say how the belief in God is silly or to ask posters to prove God exists. It is one thing to have people in a Christian forum discuss their different beliefs about God, but they should not feel like they have to defend their belief in God in this section of the forum.
Do you feel that need here, though? The odd poster here and there might make the claim that God does not exist but I never notice anyone engaging the question. I don't find those posts difficult to ignore in this particular sub-forum, so I'm wondering if and why others do.
Oh, believe me, that cuts both ways. Why do believers challenge non-believers?
I used to hang out at the Religion and Spirituality forum at Yahoo! Answers. A variation of "atheists, why are you here?" came up at least once an hour. It was as if the religious expected to be able to discuss their beliefs in a vacuum. But what is atheism but a stance on religion and spirituality? And for as much as they didn't seem to want atheists around, they continued to constantly ask the atheists questions.
It would be nice if people could just live and let live, though.
An EXcellent point, and if the people who complain about what goes on here were to look at what goes on in the Islam forum with the same attitude they would be appalled. It sometimes looks like nothing but a barrage of attacks from all directions.
Do you feel that need here, though? The odd poster here and there might make the claim that God does not exist but I never notice anyone engaging the question. I don't find those posts difficult to ignore in this particular sub-forum, so I'm wondering if and why others do.
That's your perspective though. It doesn't bother you because it doesn't attack what you believe, so why would we think that you would be offended by something like that?
Do you feel that need here, though? The odd poster here and there might make the claim that God does not exist but I never notice anyone engaging the question. I don't find those posts difficult to ignore in this particular sub-forum, so I'm wondering if and why others do.
It takes people away from the original topic, and has no place in the CHRISTIAN section of the forum.
I don't really address Jesus. Its about addressing how people process information. "Jesus" is a tool do discuss that. In chemistry class they can use 'water".
for me religion is not the problem. "literal people" are the problem. "literal" people are dangerous. next thing I see is how science is butchered. I mean they teach the grand canyon shows a young earth? that kind of teaching is dangerous. Its insanity really. But again it gets back to people.I don't buy into the imaginary beast thingies. Religion or a bearded dude pointing his figure at me.
Yes, I am insecure about my beliefs. Everything I "believe" I retest to see if it is valid and how conditions those beliefs hold up to. They may not feel good (causing angst), but they are valid. I wish I could cop out and "feel good".
You can discuss those things in the atheist section of the forum or the religion and spirituality section even. If you don't buy into the "imaginary beast things" or God then there is no need for you to be part of the discussions Christians are having about their religion/beliefs.
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