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Old 10-30-2015, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Salt Lake City
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Interesting. I did not know there were liberal Mormons.
We'll we're not exactly the majority, but we're here! Doing our best! Forging ahead!

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(I'm a bit far from Salt Lake City. I did drive through there about 10 years ago on my way to Santa Rosa, CA from Erie, PA. Long drive! One of my top 10 life experiences.)
Wow! That's some drive all right!

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Old 10-30-2015, 03:59 PM
 
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Believe it or not, I've thought about doing that. We have a few of those churches in town.
I'm happy to know you've been considering that Freak.
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Old 10-30-2015, 05:33 PM
 
Location: In a little house on the prairie - literally
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Many do ... many are once they can no longer deny the truth and believe what their eyes are reading from the Bible.

And we thank God for those who come to the knowledge of the truth and do what you say in jest.
That's one of the real reason Liberal Churches Are Losing Members ... it's called realizing that liberal churches are doctrinally incorrect.
Oh I agree.

They should invoke Gaia much more often.
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Old 10-30-2015, 06:04 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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In other words, your iniquities (sins) have separated you?

Yes, but Christ has bridged the gap.
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Old 10-30-2015, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Just read it without your biased bible goggles on will ya. Does it say anywhere God separated himself from you ?. Just like the wrath verse you all use to shore up you ET doctrine, you use this 1 verse to shore up you separation from God doctrine.
your iniquities

Jesus spoke of this separation in the story of the rich man and Lazarus.
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Old 10-30-2015, 06:10 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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If you also read the story of the prodigal son with a God conscious mind instead of a sin conscious mind, you will see it is talking about coming to know what's always been........ you were never separated or lacked anything...... but your beliefs stood in the way of knowing it. As a man thinks in his heart so is he.
The prodigal son was separated from the father. Never unloved, but separated nonetheless.
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Old 10-30-2015, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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May I suggest you stop twisting it to fit your expectations of FEAR and HATE?

FLASH--The OT is null & void--=It was replaced by the LOVE of Jesus..
I have no fear or hate. Why would you say that?

The OT is not null and void. Rather, the law was fulfilled by Christ. Now we live under grace.
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Old 10-30-2015, 06:15 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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I have no fear or hate. Why would you say that?

The OT is not null and void. Rather, the law was fulfilled by Christ. Now we live under grace.
Rendering the OT null and void as the law is no longer in effect.
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Old 10-30-2015, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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I always keep this thought in mind---

Size DOES NOT matter.

Look at what Jesus was able to do with just 11 people
Sin always matters. Jesus paid a heavy price for our sins. On the flip side, grace covers sin.
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Old 10-30-2015, 06:17 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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People (minorities, gay people, etc.), other belief systems. My church doesn't tell you who to vote for either
I understand and agree. Thanks for the clarification.
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