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Okay, so far, no has been able to explain, if you're not worried that other people are going to start doing the sins that you are ex-communicating or shunning people for, why are you removing them from your church? How is it harming your congregation for "sinners", like addicts or alcoholics or someone who has cheated on their spouse, to be in your midst? Do you not trust your members to be able to discern right from wrong if you don't shun them?
Isn't there a difference between being in one's midst and associating ?
So, it isn't a literal bodily removal, but simply Not associating until one is repenting.
Yep, there are a lot of youth groups out there that begin with good intentions and then somebody like me comes along
Meh, I was the preachers son, y'all all know us.
There are two kinds of kids in youth groups, those who want to be there, and those who are told to be there. It is often those who are told to be there who bring the drugs and other issues and sometimes lead others astray.
Isn't there a difference between being in one's midst and associating ?
So, it isn't a literal bodily removal, but simply Not associating until one is repenting.
What do you mean by not associating? You snub them and refuse to talk to them or something?
Okay, so far, no has been able to explain, if you're not worried that other people are going to start doing the sins that you are ex-communicating or shunning people for, why are you removing them from your church? How is it harming your congregation for "sinners", like addicts or alcoholics or someone who has cheated on their spouse, to be in your midst? Do you not trust your members to be able to discern right from wrong if you don't shun them?
Uh, it is the bad name they give God, by claiming to be "saved", the bad name to the congregation by claiming to be a member and it is something that can be "caught" if you associate with them.
ASV 1 Corinthians 15:33 Be not deceived: Evil companionships corrupt good morals.
BBE 1 Corinthians 15:33 Do not be tricked by false words: evil company does damage to good behaviour.
Basically there are only two (2) types of sinning:
Either on purpose or not, willfully or not, premeditated or not, by accident or not, intentional or not.
'Christendom ' ( mostly Christian in name only - Matthew 7:21-23 ) is in 'bed' with the political ' kings' ( earth's rulers )
So, in that sense the fake ' weed/tares ' Christians are in bed ( spiritual fornication ) with the political.
She thinks she sits as some sort of religious ' queen ' who will never see mourning or sorrow.
She is in for a BIG surprise - Revelation 17:1-2; 18:7-9; 1st Thessalonians 5:2-3
'They' the 'powers that be' will be saying, "Peace and Security " as a precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14 before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, will usher in global Peace on Earth among people of goodwill.
Those two women at the wheel, those two men in a bed are the same person, the tares and wheat also.
We get betrothed to Christ through a promise to the ten lost tribes that Messiah would come bringing a betrothal that would redeem gentiles into Israel through that betrothal.
When Jesus comes and finds a man and a woman at the wheel and a man and a woman in the bed, they are the ones who are transformed.
But when Jesus comes and finds a person who is not willing to sacrifice themselves, he finds two men in a bed. WE have to become submissive virgins to the will of our betrothed, but Jesus comes and finds a rich man living like a king, he finds two men in a bed.
We have two lives and this first life everyone has to decide right from the beginning either to be a servant or a king. Becoming a submissive virgin to Christ is actually choosing servitude in this life because you would be a king in the next. A person can live luxuriously and live like kings but if this is their choice, they should REALLY live like kings because they will be servants in the next life, better to be a submissive servant and bride in this life than to serve in the next, and who would decide to be the king in this miserable little short life?
Plenty do, and when Jesus comes, it will be as two men in a bed.
There are two kinds of kids in youth groups, those who want to be there, and those who are told to be there. It is often those who are told to be there who bring the drugs and other issues and sometimes lead others astray.
If your youth group is doing drugs and drinking at your church in front of the adult members and they are doing nothing about it, why is that?
There are two kinds of kids in youth groups, those who want to be there, and those who are told to be there. It is often those who are told to be there who bring the drugs and other issues and sometimes lead others astray.
The first-century Christian congregation did Not have ' youth groups '
There is No precedent in Scripture for any ' youth-type' group.
Plenty do, and when Jesus comes, it will be as two men in a bed.
When Jesus' comes at the soon coming ' time of separation ' - Matthew 25:31-33,37 - as Shepherd, Jesus will do the separating work on the basis of how people have treated his ' spiritual brothers ' on Earth - Matthew 25:40
Uh, it is the bad name they give God, by claiming to be "saved", the bad name to the congregation by claiming to be a member and it is something that can be "caught" if you associate with them.
ASV 1 Corinthians 15:33 Be not deceived: Evil companionships corrupt good morals.
BBE 1 Corinthians 15:33 Do not be tricked by false words: evil company does damage to good behaviour.
Yup and that is just common sense, I know a couple guys that could trigger me and thank God I haven't seen them in years and they are people I went to church with.
Uh, it is the bad name they give God, by claiming to be "saved", the bad name to the congregation by claiming to be a member and it is something that can be "caught" if you associate with them.
As I explained Pleroo earlier, certain sins like adultery can cause division in church when the cheater and the spouse are members. Also, with new believers it can cause confusion when they read the Bible and learn about the will/desire of God regarding our behavior, and at the same time they see members of the congregation live in willful and habitual sin and the church condones it.
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