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Not sure what you mean, you mean when Jesus came for Judah and Ephraim, or the prophets showing Judah being forgiven in the end?
Today if we say ,'' Israel,'' we pretty much say,'' Judah.''
I mean that I believe in a spiritual Israel but as far as who is who nowadays, you could be an Israelite living in Israel and not be Israel like Judah is Israel. Everyone who claims a true status of being Israel converts into Judah.
Jesus said that he was only sent to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel...
It doesn't matter what the word Israel means to us today, but what it meant to those backs then...They became divided into two kingdoms, the kingdom of Judah in the south and the kingdom of Israel in the north...The kingdom of Israel in the north was lost...Now how can G-d make a new covenant with the houses of Judah and Israel if the house of Israel is lost?...Can't happen...Unless someone finds them and brings them back into the fold...Hence, Jesus saying that he was only sent to the Lost Sheep of the House of Israel...His sheep know his voice...For those who have ears...He was speaking to a mixed audience and it was the Lost Sheep that would recognise the truth of what he spoke...In order for someone to be lost that someone had to be un-lost...The Gentiles were never a part of G-d's Chosen People, Israel, so they were never lost to begin with...But, the Northern Kingdom of Israel, which was a part of Israel, was lost and in order for G-d to make a new covenant with Judah and Israel, Israel had to be found and rejoined into the same fold as Judah...
There is nothing in the scriptures alluding to a "spiritual" Israel....
19 'Whoever therefore may loose one of these commands--the least--and may teach men so, least he shall be called in the reign of the heavens, but whoever may do and may teach them, he shall be called great in the reign of the heavens.
''Whoever keeps the least of the laws and teaches others to keep them will be the greatest in the kingdom of heaven, and whoever doesn't keep them and teaches others not to keep them will be the least in the kingdom of heaven.''
They are still in heaven, they are just the least which are standing in the court of outer darkness. The court of Gentiles, or should we say,'' The Earth.''
Correct, the Bible is clear - no human can die for the sins of another.
Therefore in other words
God did, so Jesus is God.
the unbelieving Jews are reject silver because they rejected the promised Messia
the true children of Abraham are those who look to Jesus as God and Savior
... the correct belief in Jesus is the difference between life with God or outer darkness where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.
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Originally Posted by Richard1965
If G-d truly sacrificed himself then there are two possible positions here:
1. Since He is G-d, then He really didn't sacrifice anything...
2. He truly did sacrifice Himself in the person of Jesus and no longer exists so there is no one to go to after you die...
Actually there are these only two possible positions:
Since Jesus is God:
1. Whoever believes in him [Jesus] is not condemned,
2. but whoever does not believe standscondemnedalreadybecause they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
or Jesus said it this way:
1. “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father;
take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.; "
2. "Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels' "
The true children of Abraham are those who look to Jesus as God and Savior. The correct belief in Jesus is the difference between life with God or outer darkness where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Actually there are these only two possible positions:
Since Jesus is God:
1. Whoever believes in him [Jesus] is not condemned,
2. but whoever does not believe standscondemnedalreadybecause they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
or Jesus said it this way:
1. “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father;
take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.; "
2. "Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels' "
The true children of Abraham are those who look to Jesus as God and Savior. The correct belief in Jesus is the difference between life with God or outer darkness where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Actually there are these only two possible positions:
Since Jesus is God:
1. Whoever believes in him [Jesus] is not condemned,
2. but whoever does not believe standscondemnedalreadybecause they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
or Jesus said it this way:
1. “Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father;
take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.; "
2. "Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels' "
The true children of Abraham are those who look to Jesus as God and Savior. The correct belief in Jesus is the difference between life with God or outer darkness where there is weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Oh...And another thing...No man may die for another man's sins...each dies for his own sins AND G-d abhors human sacrifice....
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