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Old 07-22-2016, 04:26 AM
 
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Why ?. Because according to the scriptures they claim to believe, it makes their minds dull and acts as a veil over their minds to seeing where freedom is found, which is In Christ being in them as their guide, source and go to in all things..... In other words Christ not the bible is our all in all. It's rather odd that you become a new Christian and all your mentors are intent on doing is cramming the bible down your throat so that you go out to try and make more converts, when all along Jesus desires them to do is make disciples of the Way.... By this(not by this that and the other) shall all men know you are my disciples..... That you have love one for another


But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.




Non fundamentalists who live in the law of Liberty do not need setting free from it, for having been set free, they have the ability to read it in the way it is supposed to be.



But whoever looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues in it--not forgetting what they have heard, but doing it--they will be blessed in what they do.

Just to throw this in there too. Look where Paul says where his go too for all things spiritual are in.

Such confidence we have through Christ(Not bible belief) before God. Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for ourselves, but our competence comes from God(not the bible). He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit(not the bible); for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life

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Old 07-22-2016, 05:18 AM
 
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evangelical cultists are the best example of people experiencing Stockholm syndrome




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Why ?. Because according to the scriptures they claim to believe, it makes their minds dull and acts as a veil over their minds to seeing where freedom is found, which is In Christ being in them as their guide, source and go to in all things..... In other words Christ not the bible is our all in all. It's rather odd that you become a new Christian and all your mentors are intent on doing is cramming the bible down your throat so that you go out to try and make more converts, when all along Jesus desires them to do is make disciples of the Way.... By this(not by this that and the other) shall all men know you are my disciples..... That you have love one for another


But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.




Non fundamentalists who live in the law of Liberty do not need setting free from it, for having been set free, they have the ability to read it in the way it is supposed to be.



But whoever looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues in it--not forgetting what they have heard, but doing it--they will be blessed in what they do.

Just to throw this in there too. Look where Paul says where his go too for all things spiritual are in.

Such confidence we have through Christ(Not bible belief) before God. Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for ourselves, but our competence comes from God(not the bible). He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit(not the bible); for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life

He has chosen the SIMPLE things to confound those who claim to be wise...
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Old 07-22-2016, 07:48 AM
 
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Keep trying, some will open to the Spirit.
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:18 AM
 
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Thank you, Satan.
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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thank you, satan.
lol!
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Old 07-22-2016, 09:25 AM
 
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Thank you, Satan.
Without satan, you would never have the concept of judging others...
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Old 07-22-2016, 10:10 AM
 
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Keep trying, some will open to the Spirit.
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Thank you, Satan.
But some won't
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Old 07-22-2016, 11:40 AM
 
Location: Arizona
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Why ?. Because according to the scriptures they claim to believe, it makes their minds dull and acts as a veil over their minds to seeing where freedom is found, which is In Christ being in them as their guide, source and go to in all things..... In other words, Christ not the bible is our all in all. It's rather odd that you become a new Christian and all your mentors are intent on doing is cramming the bible down your throat so that you go out to try and make more converts, when all along Jesus desires them to do is make disciples of the Way.... By this (not by this, that, and the other) shall all men know you are my disciples..... That you have love one for another.


But their minds were made dull, for to this day the same veil remains when the old covenant is read. It has not been removed, because only in Christ is it taken away. Even to this day when Moses is read, a veil covers their hearts.


Non fundamentalists who live in the law of Liberty do not need setting free from it, for having been set free, they have the ability to read it in the way it is supposed to be.


But whoever looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues in it--not forgetting what they have heard, but doing it--they will be blessed in what they do.

Just to throw this in there too. Look where Paul says where his go too for all things spiritual are in.

Such confidence we have through Christ (Not bible belief) before God. Not that we are competent in ourselves to claim anything for ourselves, but our competence comes from God (not the bible). He has made us competent as ministers of a new covenant—not of the letter but of the Spirit (not the bible); for the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life.
Some are slower than molasses on a cold day.
When it comes to comprehending, and doing.

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Old 07-22-2016, 11:43 AM
 
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Thank you, Satan.
Who, or what are you referencing?
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Old 07-22-2016, 12:17 PM
 
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Thank you, Satan.
Or Beelzebub? Anything to keep the children of God from the Scriptures. Paul always wrote to the believers "According as it is written." Therefore Paul was always in the Scriptures and was proving truth in accord with what was written.

When Christ was assaulted by Satan and tried by him Jesus always said "It is written" thus relying on the written word of God. Oh Satan just hates that!!! He sends his messengers here as messengers of light to dissuade believers from the Scriptures.

113 times just in the New Testament the word "written" is referred to.

2Ti 2:15 Endeavor to present yourself to God qualified, an unashamed worker, correctly cutting the word of truth."
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