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Sorry, Rbbi1, casting out devils then was a sign of their culture, not just God, when even the unsaved did it. So claiming YOU have done it in the name of Jesus, is nothing special at all
Acts 19:13-16
And, sorry, Scriptures do not state that "today" is the first thousand years and "tomorrow" is the second thousand years. If you believe Scripture literally, then stick to your beliefs and don't add or subtract from them. So your own words "anyone can decide whether or not something in the word is true or not by virtue of their own INexperience and lack of faith to believe the word as it is written," in the above post show you don't really believe them yourself. You have made those days into a thousand years. And, by the way, the whole verse about a "thousand years is as a single day" to the Lord is Jewish hyperbole in stating God is timeless. 2nd Peter is quoting Psalms which shows the hyperbole:
"or a thousand years in Your sight Are like yesterday when it passes by, Or as a watch in the night."
Is it a literal thousand years or is it a "watch in the night?" Scripture, in the same verse CALLS it both which is an indication of hyperbole.
The NT speaks of love over 200 times and about sin just over 100 times. Yet you remain hung up on sin and not what the Bible speaks about most. Why is that? I think you try to lead an ethical life which while commendable, has nothing to do with the theme of Love that runs from one end of the NT to the other.
I agree with you that it is not love to stay ignorant of God's word. Yet you do. I study daily--from many different authors--you just depend on that inner "feeling" of yours to "count" as study. More's the shame.
I stated before I don't know about demons. You say you do, and I certainly believe you. However those of us consumed with the Love of God, have no time for demons, only time to tell people God loves them and can give them the freedom from those who tell them they are nothing but sinners.
I'm sorry for you, but agape love overcomes all fear of demons!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEi463LcxxA
3rd verse:
Could we with ink the ocean fill,
And were the skies of parchment made;
Were every stalk on earth a quill,
And every man a scribe by trade;
To write the love of God above
Would drain the ocean dry;
Nor could the scroll contain the whole,
Though stretched from sky to sky.
Imagine!!! A mentally ill patient found the Love of God!!! That's what agape love can do---for everyone--not just those on your "approval" list!! I believe you are convicted over agape love that God calls for from His followers, and that is why you speak in such a denigrating manner about such love.
Yeah, the sons of Sceva did it and got their behinds handed to them on a silver platter because they were using His name like a magic word, not an indwelling presence. As for it being "special", these things follow them that believe....period. What follows unbelievers is only more bondage they leave in their wake. Yet who the Son SETS FREE (of WHAT, do you suppose?) is free indeed.
I never said I believed everything was literal only. I have often told you the correct way to interpret scripture is with many witnesses; first and foremost the Spirit is the teacher, and the Tabernacle of WITNESS, plus the creation is a witness, and then PARDES comes into play. As for the days being a thousand years, it born witness also by the Tabernacle which is many things, including a clock, as well as other scriptures. See, there's a whole pattern there hidden for kings to search out. You know how He's king of kings, right? Or did you think that only meant like the King of Jordan, ect.?
You rely on your carnal mind alone to teach you, knowing that it is G-d's enemy. More the shame to you. But then you don't believe the word, so no shock there.
No, I speak in a denigrating way about those that claim it, yet have no fruit of it showing when it comes to the "dreaded fundys". Peace
Good post, Rbb1. The same as you, I agree that it pays to study demons so we can learn about their methods. Also to be aware of seemingly harm-less things which can inadvertently open the door to demonic presences. For example, there have been instances where tourists have brought back seemingly innocuous trinkets they bought during their vacation-trips. Unknown to them, those trinkets and statuettes had been used in Satanic rituals but were unwittingly seen as innocuous souvenirs in the eyes of the tourists.
...there have been instances where tourists have brought back seemingly innocuous trinkets they bought during their vacation-trips. Unknown to them, those trinkets and statuettes had been used in Satanic rituals but were unwittingly seen as innocuous souvenirs in the eyes of the tourists.
Where was this documented? Did something bad happen? Were the trinkets cursed and did harm befall these tourists?
Yeah, the sons of Sceva did it and got their behinds handed to them on a silver platter because they were using His name like a magic word, not an indwelling presence. As for it being "special", these things follow them that believe....period. What follows unbelievers is only more bondage they leave in their wake. Yet who the Son SETS FREE (of WHAT, do you suppose?) is free indeed.
I never said I believed everything was literal only. I have often told you the correct way to interpret scripture is with many witnesses; first and foremost the Spirit is the teacher, and the Tabernacle of WITNESS, plus the creation is a witness, and then PARDES comes into play. As for the days being a thousand years, it born witness also by the Tabernacle which is many things, including a clock, as well as other scriptures. See, there's a whole pattern there hidden for kings to search out. You know how He's king of kings, right? Or did you think that only meant like the King of Jordan, ect.?
You rely on your carnal mind alone to teach you, knowing that it is G-d's enemy. More the shame to you. But then you don't believe the word, so no shock there.
No, I speak in a denigrating way about those that claim it, yet have no fruit of it showing when it comes to the "dreaded fundys". Peace
And yet you have no problem judging me as being carnal?
I think you are still in the Garden of Eden, circling the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, usurping God's right to judge and making it your own. That IS the original sin--and is more prevalent among those entangled with religion than anyone else. Think that may have been the reason Jesus came down so hard on the Pharisees? They too, loved their book, had ALL the interpretations worked out to their own satisfaction, and like you, believed an ETHICAL life was pleasing to God.
What follows BELIEVERS is a desire to learn more--and the more one learns, the less secure they become in their preconceived notions about beliefs. Your spin is to put an indefinable mysticism to it.
You claim that we should just read and believe---and yet your beliefs MIRROR that of an online populist bibliolator. I know, it came to you first. Well, Jesus came to me 25 years before He "came" to you. And I used to parrot much of the same things.
You believe in being ethical. I believe in commitment to agape love. You like to draw attention to yourself by mystical thousand days and secret circles of heaven (drawn from Dante's seven circles of hell I suppose), but none of that DRAWS men to Jesus Christ. What does is AGAPE LOVE! Period. I suppose the mysticism tickles the ears of some and so they can talk in a "secret" code and congratulate one another on their deep understanding.
Quote:
It is not by ideals and programmes or by conscience, duty, responsibility and virture that reality can be confronted and overcome, but simply and solely by the perfect love of God.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
And before you denigrate Bonhoeffer who died for his beliefs in standing against Nazi Germany (he was German), read about him, then tell us how he was nothing, his ideas and thoughts do not reflect God, and that only you can clarify it all for us. How can you claim to participate in God's thoughts when you refuse to let your life be immersed in the immeasurable love that He brought to EVERYONE?
We are to grow and continue to grow without ceasing. I John 3:2 tells us we are nowhere close to being like Jesus, but how can you hope to be like Jesus if you are not like Him in agape love?
The essence of sin is that we play God. Almost every post you make, other than your high fives to other mystics displays you trying to usurp God's position at the center of the Garden. I think you try to define yourself as a promoer of good against evil and have become a judge of people like me, who openly admit that I have picked up a single grain of sand from the shores of God's universe and want to learn more and more and more. In doing so you have abdicated God's calling that we be lovers of people regardless of whether they are good or evil.
In essence, like most of the established denominations throughout history, you have become a promoter of the fall (tell them they are sinners) rather than a proclaimer of the Good News that alone can free us from that fall and place us OUTSIDE the center of the Garden of Eden where we should compliment God's authority as the judge and arbiter of all peoples. Instead you see yourself as the guardian of the knowledge of good and evil and it has suppressed your ability to understand how to transcend the knowledge of good and evil by living in love.
Every truth, deed and even teaching is reduced to nothing but religious noise when it isn't placed under and completely clothed in the commandment to love.
Love is not simply one of many points about God. It is the point that encompasses, unifies and gives life to every other poing of Christian life and thought. I have no doubt you earnestly WANT to please God, but it is not possible when that mystical noise drowns out the cry of God's heart in what Jesus called as EQUAL to loving God--to love your neighbor as yourself.
It makes no difference how ethical you are, what "good" you do for others, or any of the other religious "laws" that religionists wish to hold up, without love absolutely nothing has any significance. Even studying Scripture scholastically is of no value if one's desire is not to learn how to love more deeply and care more meaningfully with others.
Quote:
If I speak with the tongues of mortals and of angels , but do not have love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have faith so as to remove mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing.
I Cor. 13:1-2
So all your prophecy and all your deep understanding of "mysteries" means nothing at all--until the love of God so permeates your being that nothing else matters.
Get an education and see what others think and why--then come back and talk to us about "demons."
Until then I hear the cymbals clanging in my ears--and not just me, a number of others have stated the same thing. Don't harden your heart further from the primary message of God--who is called LOVE. He is not called justice, nor is He called Grace, nor is He called Mercy, although He has all these attributes. But the Bible you worship so fervently, states GOD IS LOVE!!!
We are to be like God in His love--impartial and universal (Deut. 10:17-19; 2 Chron. 19:7; Mark 12:14, Acts 10:34; Romans 2:10-11; Eph. 6:9; I Peter 1:17; 2 Peter 3:9 and finally I John 4:7-8
Quote:
Beloved, let us love one another, because love comes from God. Everyone who loves has been born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love, does not know God, because God is love.
I John 4:7-8
Call me carnal, God still loves you and seeks the best for you, and calls you to walk in the same loving footsteps as Jesus.
The question all of us should ask ourselves with every person we run into is, How can I, right here and right now, affirm the unsurpassable worth of this person for whom Jesus died?
Where was this documented? Did something bad happen? Were the trinkets cursed and did harm befall these tourists?
It's documented from the accounts of the well-known Exorcist,Charles Kraft. Unless I'm mistaken, the demonized trinkets unwittingly bought by the Tourists resulted in Poltergeist phenomena. So even Inanimate objects can become possessed.
It's documented from the accounts of the well-known Exorcist,Charles Kraft. Unless I'm mistaken, the demonized trinkets unwittingly bought by the Tourists resulted in Poltergeist phenomena. So even Inanimate objects can become possessed.
search hits weirdly absent. i'd think there would be like even some false ones or something, hmm. haven't searched "accounts of the well-known..." yet tho. edit, ya not much there either. all second hand. Strange that there aren't testimonials of this nature, even if they are sensationalized or even fake or whatever, hmm.
And yet you have no problem judging me as being carnal?
I think you are still in the Garden of Eden, circling the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil, usurping God's right to judge and making it your own. That IS the original sin--and is more prevalent among those entangled with religion than anyone else. Think that may have been the reason Jesus came down so hard on the Pharisees? They too, loved their book, had ALL the interpretations worked out to their own satisfaction, and like you, believed an ETHICAL life was pleasing to God.
What follows BELIEVERS is a desire to learn more--and the more one learns, the less secure they become in their preconceived notions about beliefs. Your spin is to put an indefinable mysticism to it.
You claim that we should just read and believe---and yet your beliefs MIRROR that of an online populist bibliolator. I know, it came to you first. Well, Jesus came to me 25 years before He "came" to you. And I used to parrot much of the same things.
You believe in being ethical. I believe in commitment to agape love. You like to draw attention to yourself by mystical thousand days and secret circles of heaven (drawn from Dante's seven circles of hell I suppose), but none of that DRAWS men to Jesus Christ. What does is AGAPE LOVE! Period. I suppose the mysticism tickles the ears of some and so they can talk in a "secret" code and congratulate one another on their deep understanding.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer
And before you denigrate Bonhoeffer who died for his beliefs in standing against Nazi Germany (he was German), read about him, then tell us how he was nothing, his ideas and thoughts do not reflect God, and that only you can clarify it all for us. How can you claim to participate in God's thoughts when you refuse to let your life be immersed in the immeasurable love that He brought to EVERYONE?
We are to grow and continue to grow without ceasing. I John 3:2 tells us we are nowhere close to being like Jesus, but how can you hope to be like Jesus if you are not like Him in agape love?
The essence of sin is that we play God. Almost every post you make, other than your high fives to other mystics displays you trying to usurp God's position at the center of the Garden. I think you try to define yourself as a promoer of good against evil and have become a judge of people like me, who openly admit that I have picked up a single grain of sand from the shores of God's universe and want to learn more and more and more. In doing so you have abdicated God's calling that we be lovers of people regardless of whether they are good or evil.
In essence, like most of the established denominations throughout history, you have become a promoter of the fall (tell them they are sinners) rather than a proclaimer of the Good News that alone can free us from that fall and place us OUTSIDE the center of the Garden of Eden where we should compliment God's authority as the judge and arbiter of all peoples. Instead you see yourself as the guardian of the knowledge of good and evil and it has suppressed your ability to understand how to transcend the knowledge of good and evil by living in love.
Every truth, deed and even teaching is reduced to nothing but religious noise when it isn't placed under and completely clothed in the commandment to love.
Love is not simply one of many points about God. It is the point that encompasses, unifies and gives life to every other poing of Christian life and thought. I have no doubt you earnestly WANT to please God, but it is not possible when that mystical noise drowns out the cry of God's heart in what Jesus called as EQUAL to loving God--to love your neighbor as yourself.
It makes no difference how ethical you are, what "good" you do for others, or any of the other religious "laws" that religionists wish to hold up, without love absolutely nothing has any significance. Even studying Scripture scholastically is of no value if one's desire is not to learn how to love more deeply and care more meaningfully with others.
I Cor. 13:1-2
So all your prophecy and all your deep understanding of "mysteries" means nothing at all--until the love of God so permeates your being that nothing else matters.
Get an education and see what others think and why--then come back and talk to us about "demons."
Until then I hear the cymbals clanging in my ears--and not just me, a number of others have stated the same thing. Don't harden your heart further from the primary message of God--who is called LOVE. He is not called justice, nor is He called Grace, nor is He called Mercy, although He has all these attributes. But the Bible you worship so fervently, states GOD IS LOVE!!!
We are to be like God in His love--impartial and universal (Deut. 10:17-19; 2 Chron. 19:7; Mark 12:14, Acts 10:34; Romans 2:10-11; Eph. 6:9; I Peter 1:17; 2 Peter 3:9 and finally I John 4:7-8
I John 4:7-8
Call me carnal, God still loves you and seeks the best for you, and calls you to walk in the same loving footsteps as Jesus.
The question all of us should ask ourselves with every person we run into is, How can I, right here and right now, affirm the unsurpassable worth of this person for whom Jesus died?
It is the epitome of hypocrisy and hubris for Jews to call anyone carnal. They missed Jesus primarily because of their carnal focus on the ancient ignorance of our primitive ancestors' expectations. They STILL have carnal expectations relying on their physical genetics as a chosen people. We are adopted into Christ's grace by our agape love, period!
search hits weirdly absent. i'd think there would be like even some false ones or something, hmm. haven't searched "accounts of the well-known..." yet tho. edit, ya not much there either. all second hand. Strange that there aren't testimonials of this nature, even if they are sensationalized or even fake or whatever, hmm.
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and finally I John 4:7-8
