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Old 02-06-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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It is claimed by many that the "Beloved Disciple" mentioned in the Gospel of John is the Apostle John. But does the Gospel of John even make this claim?

If not the Apostle John who might the Beloved Disciple be, and what evidence is there (if any) to that effect.
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Old 02-06-2017, 10:48 AM
 
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It is claimed by many that the "Beloved Disciple" mentioned in the Gospel of John is the Apostle John. But does the Gospel of John even make this claim?

If not the Apostle John who might the Beloved Disciple be, and what evidence is there (if any) to that effect.
Maybe this will help.

https://www.gotquestions.org/discipl...sus-loved.html
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Old 02-06-2017, 04:16 PM
 
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It would appear to be John from a surface reading, but I believe it was Lazarus (not John). Read all of the verses related to Lazarus and to the beloved disciple. All of them. Closely.

Also read the parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man in the gospel of Luke.

I believe all 3 (counting the rich man) are the same person. And all the stories are parables. Which includes the entire gospel of John.
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Old 02-06-2017, 05:35 PM
 
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Mary of Magdala. John was caught up to the third heaven

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Old 02-06-2017, 07:34 PM
 
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Mary of Magdala. John was caught up to the third heaven

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Old 02-06-2017, 07:54 PM
 
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It is claimed by many that the "Beloved Disciple" mentioned in the Gospel of John is the Apostle John. But does the Gospel of John even make this claim?

If not the Apostle John who might the Beloved Disciple be, and what evidence is there (if any) to that effect.
Lazarus...
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Old 02-06-2017, 07:56 PM
 
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It would appear to be John from a surface reading, but I believe it was Lazarus (not John). Read all of the verses related to Lazarus and to the beloved disciple. All of them. Closely.

Also read the parable of Lazarus and the Rich Man in the gospel of Luke.

I believe all 3 (counting the rich man) are the same person. And all the stories are parables. Which includes the entire gospel of John.
Lazarus of the Rich man parable is Eliazer of Abraham...
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:09 PM
 
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The single most loved and knowledgeable Apostle was Mary of Magdala, but the chauvinistic Apostles led by Peter refused to acknowledge it. The so-called apostolic successors continued their chauvinism to the present day. It is a travesty.
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Old 02-06-2017, 08:12 PM
 
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The only time Jesus ever wept was when his friend Lazarus died.

I think that story, though, was probably based on the story of Apollo (son of God) and his male lover. Apollo wept when he died. That's another thing that made me realize that the gospel accounts were fiction.
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Old 02-07-2017, 03:07 AM
 
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Just like in Revelation 21:14 , ....says ..``and the wall of the city (in heaven) had the name of the twelve apostles of the Lamb `` as the name could starts out as , Peter, Paul , James, John, Matthew, .............. Actually Jesus loved them all
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