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That's because it has no Biblical basis. It's just your opinion.
On the contrary, it is what you have been taught to believe that has no basis.
Ironically, there is nothing in the New Testament to support your conclusion.
And the flogging of Jesus doesn't help your cause, it's rather detrimental to it.
It may be debated what was intended by this in the Bible. However in present day, the only people I ever hear cite it are those who believe in spanking children and they base their belief on this passage in the Bible. For example I've never heard a parent say they use "time out" because they believe in "spare the rod, spoil the child".
On the contrary, it is what you have been taught to believe that has no basis.
Ironically, there is nothing in the New Testament to support your conclusion.
And the flogging of Jesus doesn't help your cause, it's rather detrimental to it.
You know little to nothing about what I was "taught". Neither have you paid attention to my opinion on this matter. Frankly, you have given no basis for your opinion.
You know little to nothing about what I was "taught". Neither have you paid attention to my opinion on this matter. Frankly, you have given no basis for your opinion.
I've read your posts (all of them), so I have a fairly good idea. But the point is - you believe it is alright to discipline a young child through the means of spanking (i.e., hitting them) according to the Bible. However, that is not what the term "rod" is implying - try to see it in a different light! You can teach and guide a child without using a paddle - love doesn't require it - and something tells me, you would not smack your wife. Is not a child deserving of the same respect. Just because they have not attained an age of maturity, does not mean you should "hit" them. Do you teach a toddler not to bite by biting them? I know, some people do, right? And taking the car keys away from a reckless teenager is probably a good idea, but I highly doubt that you would run them over - just to teach them a lesson.
I've read your posts (all of them), so I have a fairly good idea. But the point is - you believe it is alright to discipline a young child through the means of spanking (i.e., hitting them) according to the Bible. However, that is not what the term "rod" is implying - try to see it in a different light! You can teach and guide a child without using a paddle - love doesn't require it - and something tells me, you would not smack your wife. Is not a child deserving of the same respect. Just because they have not attained an age of maturity, does not mean you should "hit" them. Do you teach a toddler not to bite by biting them? I know, some people do, right? And taking the car keys away from a reckless teenager is probably a good idea, but I highly doubt that you would run them over - just to teach them a lesson.
Again, just your opinion. And no, you didn't read all my posts on this matter. If you had, you would see I said my dad spanked me as a child, and he's not a Christian. Had nothing to do with "what the Bible says".
Strictly speaking there are only two reasons to spank a child.
1. The child is excessively cruel to others, possibly endangering their life.
2. The child is risking their own life.
Spanking is not to teach discipline, so much as curb psychotic and suicidal drives, sort of "don't make me worry about you!" It should typically also be so rare that they remember the lesson.
Still waiting for you to back up your words in post #71. How do you know "spare the rod" did NOT refer to spanking?
Proverbs are about instruction
Pro 1:1 The Proverbs of Solomon, son of David, king of Israel:
Pro 1:2 To know wisdom and instruction; to discern the words of understanding;
Pro 1:3 to receive instruction in prudence, justice, and judgment, and uprightness;
Pro 1:4 to give sense to the simple, knowledge and discretion to the young man.
Pro 1:5 The wise hears and increases learning, and the understanding ones gets wise counsel,
Pro 1:6 to understand a proverb and an enigma; the words of the wise, and their acute sayings.
Pro 1:7 The fear of Jehovah is the beginning of knowledge; fools despise wisdom and instruction.
In the second part of proverbs 13:24 the word translated as chastisement is usually translated as instruction, I believe the context of the proverb has more to do with giving instruction early rather than punishing later
The KJV translates Strong's H4148 in the following manner: instruction (30x), correction (8x), chasten (4x), chastisement (3x), check (1x), bond (1x), discipline (1x), doctrine (1x), rebuker (1x).
H7836 (Strong)
שָׁחַר
shâchar
shaw-khar'
A primitive root; properly to dawn, that is, (figuratively) be (up) early at any task (with the implication of earnestness); by extension to search for (with painstaking): - [do something] betimes, enquire early, rise (seek) betimes, seek (diligently) early, in the morning).
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