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Probably the biggest error in the mainline "churches" of today.....if your Pastor preaches 90% of his sermons out of the four gospels he is giving you a message that was for the Jews under the law 2,000 years ago. Jesus only made TWO exceptions to "Jews only" during His time here, the Canaanite woman and the Roman centurion. Worse yet He emphasized it over and over and His disciples knew better than to bring a Gentile before Him, they knew it because they were also COMMANDED to go only to the Jews as well. I spent years in denominational and non groups as well and never once heard this verse right from the lips of Jesus......
Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, "Go NOWHERE among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans,
Mat 10:6 but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
You can't get any clearer than that.......now I need a show of hands for all those who sit in a nice building on Sunday how many have heard that before?
Now hidden in the mind of Christ was a revealing of GRACE to the world after the cross, but these disciples and the Jews didn't have a clue about it, because it would be revealed to Paul later. In fact the idea of Jews dealing with Gentiles was forbidden and abhorent to them, they considered pagan gentiles to be dogs and wouldn't even go through their town and had to take an offering to the Temple and be considered unclean for a short term.
Jesus told everybody plainly why He was there....
Mat 15:23 But he did not answer her a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying, "Send her away, for she is crying out after us."
Mat 15:24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
So some of you should be asking your Pastors why he is delivering messages week after week intended for Jews under the law and worshiping at the Temple and making sacrifices of bulls and goats, when we do none of that here today, nor should we.
It was actually even worse for Gentiles during that time.....they didn't know God and couldn't be saved during the time of Israel.....and Paul points this out later...............
Eph 2:11 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called "the uncircumcision" by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands—
Eph 2:12 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and WITHOUT God in the world.
So there was a time when Gentiles were out of luck, not today however where the whole world can freely accept Jesus and be saved by one gospel of grace...........do some investigating on your own and see if all this is true, your eternal life may just depend on it..........
So if you're sitting in church thinking you have to obey the law and maybe give a nod to grace when you fail, you are not only not saved but under a curse............
Gal 3:10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them."
Gal 3:11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for "The righteous shall live by faith."
Probably the biggest error in the mainline "churches" of today.....if your Pastor preaches 90% of his sermons out of the four gospels he is giving you a message that was for the Jews under the law 2,000 years ago. Jesus only made TWO exceptions to "Jews only" during His time here, the Canaanite woman and the Roman centurion. Worse yet He emphasized it over and over and His disciples knew better than to bring a Gentile before Him, they knew it because they were also COMMANDED to go only to the Jews as well. I spent years in denominational and non groups as well and never once heard this verse right from the lips of Jesus......
How about an entire village of Samaritans? And no, salvation has always been by grace through faith, you can see this very clearly in the story of the prodigal son for example. The Gospels are as much relevant to us, as they were to the Jews back then.
I think it is sad how dispensationalism tries to drive wedges where there really are none, Abraham was justified by faith, Habakkuk 2:4 says the righteous shall live by faith, Isaiah 55 gives a free invitation to an everlasting covenant. Just because Jesus Christ was first sent to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, does not mean that the Gospels are not for us, as if it were a mix of grace and law that is not relevant to us anymore.
Habakkuk 2:4 Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.
Isaiah 55:1-3 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price. Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.
Genesis 15:6 And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
Jesus had to first offer to the Jews the kingdom that had been prophesied in the Old Testament to Israel. Jesus' message of the kingdom was extended to the Jews. He preached the gospel of the kingdom to them. He had to first give the Jews the opportunity to accept or reject Him as their Messiah. At the end of His public ministry Jesus lamented over Jerusalem because the Jewish leadership had rejected Him and therefore their house was being left desolate (Matthew 23:37-39). Because the Jewish leadership rejected Him, the kingdom was postponed until Jesus' return at the end of the Tribulation.
However, eternal salvation has always been available to everyone whether Jew or Gentile. Jesus drove the demon out of the daughter of the Canaanite woman after first telling her that He had been sent only to the lost sheep of Israel. He had intended to heal her daughter all along but wanted to give the woman a chance to express her faith. Matthew 15:21-28 relates this event.
Jesus, near the end of His public ministry, and after it was clear that the Jews had rejected the offer of the kingdom then announced that He would build His church (Matthew 16:18) which would consist of both Jews and Gentiles together in the body of Christ. Just before leaving earth to return to heaven Jesus gave the great commission to the apostles (Matthew 28:19-20).
Again however, eternal salvation has always been available to anyone who, before Jesus went to the cross, simply believed the promise of the coming of a deliverer, or after the cross, believed in His finished redemptive work on the cross.
The book of Jonah addresses God's concern for the Gentile people of Nineveh.
Jesus would have healed anyone, would have saved anyone, Jew or Gentile who came to Him in faith. But He had to extend the offer of the Kingdom, a literal, physical, geographical kingdom on the earth, to the Jews. If the Jews had accepted Him as the Messiah, if they had accepted the offer of the Kingdom, Jesus would have brought in that kingdom after going to the cross. As it is, and as He had always known they would, the Jews rejected Him, and so the Kingdom on earth will be brought in when He returns. But He had to extend the offer to them as part of His ministry.
Probably the biggest error in the mainline "churches" of today.....if your Pastor preaches 90% of his sermons out of the four gospels he is giving you a message that was for the Jews under the law 2,000 years ago. Jesus only made TWO exceptions to "Jews only" during His time here, the Canaanite woman and the Roman centurion. Worse yet He emphasized it over and over and His disciples knew better than to bring a Gentile before Him, they knew it because they were also COMMANDED to go only to the Jews as well. I spent years in denominational and non groups as well and never once heard this verse right from the lips of Jesus......
Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, "Go NOWHERE among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans,
Mat 10:6 but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
You can't get any clearer than that.......now I need a show of hands for all those who sit in a nice building on Sunday how many have heard that before?
He updated the instructions just before his death, so they knew the work was to include Gentiles.
Matthew 28:19-20 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: {teach...: or, make disciples, or, Christians of all nations} 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
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Now hidden in the mind of Christ was a revealing of GRACE to the world after the cross, but these disciples and the Jews didn't have a clue about it, because it would be revealed to Paul later. In fact the idea of Jews dealing with Gentiles was forbidden and abhorent to them, they considered pagan gentiles to be dogs and wouldn't even go through their town and had to take an offering to the Temple and be considered unclean for a short term.
Nope, much earlier as Peter was sent to Cornelius a Roman after God made it clear to him the old law was done.
cts 10:9-14 On the morrow, as they went on their journey, and drew nigh unto the city, Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour: 10 And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, 11 And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: 12 Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. 13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. 14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. A
cts 10:15-16 15 And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common. 16 This was done thrice: and the vessel was received up again into heaven.
NAS Acts 10:15 And again a voice came to him a second time, (a)"What God has cleansed, no longer consider (1)unholy."
NIV Acts 10:15 The voice spoke to him a second time, "Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.
Probably the biggest error in the mainline "churches" of today.....if your Pastor preaches 90% of his sermons out of the four gospels he is giving you a message that was for the Jews under the law 2,000 years ago. Jesus only made TWO exceptions to "Jews only" during His time here, the Canaanite woman and the Roman centurion. Worse yet He emphasized it over and over and His disciples knew better than to bring a Gentile before Him, they knew it because they were also COMMANDED to go only to the Jews as well. I spent years in denominational and non groups as well and never once heard this verse right from the lips of Jesus......
Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, "Go NOWHERE among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans,
Mat 10:6 but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
You can't get any clearer than that.......now I need a show of hands for all those who sit in a nice building on Sunday how many have heard that before?
Now hidden in the mind of Christ was a revealing of GRACE to the world after the cross, but these disciples and the Jews didn't have a clue about it, because it would be revealed to Paul later. In fact the idea of Jews dealing with Gentiles was forbidden and abhorent to them, they considered pagan gentiles to be dogs and wouldn't even go through their town and had to take an offering to the Temple and be considered unclean for a short term.
Jesus told everybody plainly why He was there....
Mat 15:23 But he did not answer her a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying, "Send her away, for she is crying out after us."
Mat 15:24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
So some of you should be asking your Pastors why he is delivering messages week after week intended for Jews under the law and worshiping at the Temple and making sacrifices of bulls and goats, when we do none of that here today, nor should we.
It was actually even worse for Gentiles during that time.....they didn't know God and couldn't be saved during the time of Israel.....and Paul points this out later...............
Eph 2:11 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called "the uncircumcision" by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands—
Eph 2:12 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and WITHOUT God in the world.
So there was a time when Gentiles were out of luck, not today however where the whole world can freely accept Jesus and be saved by one gospel of grace...........do some investigating on your own and see if all this is true, your eternal life may just depend on it..........
So if you're sitting in church thinking you have to obey the law and maybe give a nod to grace when you fail, you are not only not saved but under a curse............
Gal 3:10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them."
Gal 3:11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for "The righteous shall live by faith."
Romans 9
Jesus brings a covenant for Judah, and Ephraim ONLY, ONLY THEM AND NOBODY ELSE.
Here is Paul explaining how he isn't a Jew, he is of the Northern kingdom of Israel amongst the 7000 saved in each generation and he was living amongst Jews. Paul is explaining that it doesn't just come to the Judah, but the promise is ALSO to HIM, That HE is amongst the ten lost tribes of Israel being one of those 7000 as all the disciples were of Israel, not Judah.
4Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
Paul is explaining that he isn't a Jew, that he is amongst the ten lost tribes of Israel amongst the 7000 reserved in Israel in every generation, he has more to do with gentiles than Jews do. It was his people who were broken off, not Judah. The Israelites were broken off for unbelief, Jews were not.
The covenant is ONLY FOR JUDAH AND EPHRAIM ~ Jeremiah 31 A New Covenant
30"But everyone will die for his own iniquity; each man who eats the sour grapes, his teeth will be set on edge. 31"Behold,daysare coming,"declaresthe LORD,"when I will makea newcovenantwith the houseof Israeland with the houseof Judah, 25As he saith also in Osee, I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. 26And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God. 27Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: 28For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth. 29And as Esaias said before, Except the Lord of Sabaoth had left us a seed, we had been as Sodoma, and been made like unto Gomorrha.
When Jesus came, there was no Ephraim accept those 7000 reserved as Paul and the disciples were of Israel but were living amongst Judah.
Those ten lost tribes of Israel had been lost for 700 years and BEFORE Jesus could bring a new covenant, he had to graft Gentiles into those ten lost tribes as Hosea promised a betrothal. The friend of the bridegroom was sent out to prepare the way before the Lord, into Galilee went John. Then Galilee of the nations in the land of the ten lost tribes, those who sat in darkness for 700 years had now seen the light of the bridegroom and they came getting the promised betrothal.
The disciples DID NOT TURN TO GENTILES.
They went out grafted gentiles through a promised to the ten lost tribes to become one with Judah.
A Christian thinks he is in a covenant with Jesus?
Jesus ONLY brings a covenant for Judah and Ephraim and if the Gentile does not do the works of Ephraim, then he is just making a claim to be under a covenant.
The priesthood turned to Israel, not gentiles, but to the kingdom of Israel known as ,'' Ephraim.''
Lost gentiles who have now come to be co-heirs with Jews.
NOT GENTILES WHO ARE SEPERATED FROM JEWS and JUDAISM.
If you are not a Jew, and you are not a Gentile who loves Judaism, then what part of this covenant are you in?
You are fooling yourself if you don't love the law, if you don't love Jews enough to become one with them, if you have not come repenting for your pagan holy days, why fool yourself?
If you aren't a gentile who has converted to the worship system of God to become co-heirs with Jews, why fool yourself?
Jesus brought a covenant for Judah and Ephraim and these two become one, and so are you with the Jews? Are you in support of Judaism and the 7 feast days of Christ? Do you freaking love the Torah?
Then why fool yourself because Jesus only brings a covenant for Ephraim and Judah.
God broke off the branches of the ten tribes, and if a gentile has not accepted the worship system of the Jews, he couldn't boast against the ten broken branches of Israel EVEN IF HE WANTED.
If you are not a Jew, and if you are not a Gentile who has converted to Judaism, then why even study the New Testament at all?
Paul was a Jew of the tribe of Benjamin not one of the 10 tribes.
ASV Philippians 3:5 circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
Probably the biggest error in the mainline "churches" of today.....if your Pastor preaches 90% of his sermons out of the four gospels he is giving you a message that was for the Jews under the law 2,000 years ago. Jesus only made TWO exceptions to "Jews only" during His time here, the Canaanite woman and the Roman centurion. Worse yet He emphasized it over and over and His disciples knew better than to bring a Gentile before Him, they knew it because they were also COMMANDED to go only to the Jews as well. I spent years in denominational and non groups as well and never once heard this verse right from the lips of Jesus......
Mat 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, "Go NOWHERE among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans,
Mat 10:6 but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
You can't get any clearer than that.......now I need a show of hands for all those who sit in a nice building on Sunday how many have heard that before?
Now hidden in the mind of Christ was a revealing of GRACE to the world after the cross, but these disciples and the Jews didn't have a clue about it, because it would be revealed to Paul later. In fact the idea of Jews dealing with Gentiles was forbidden and abhorent to them, they considered pagan gentiles to be dogs and wouldn't even go through their town and had to take an offering to the Temple and be considered unclean for a short term.
Jesus told everybody plainly why He was there....
Mat 15:23 But he did not answer her a word. And his disciples came and begged him, saying, "Send her away, for she is crying out after us."
Mat 15:24 He answered, "I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."
So some of you should be asking your Pastors why he is delivering messages week after week intended for Jews under the law and worshiping at the Temple and making sacrifices of bulls and goats, when we do none of that here today, nor should we.
It was actually even worse for Gentiles during that time.....they didn't know God and couldn't be saved during the time of Israel.....and Paul points this out later...............
Eph 2:11 Therefore remember that at one time you Gentiles in the flesh, called "the uncircumcision" by what is called the circumcision, which is made in the flesh by hands—
Eph 2:12 remember that you were at that time separated from Christ, alienated from the commonwealth of Israel and strangers to the covenants of promise, having no hope and WITHOUT God in the world.
So there was a time when Gentiles were out of luck, not today however where the whole world can freely accept Jesus and be saved by one gospel of grace...........do some investigating on your own and see if all this is true, your eternal life may just depend on it..........
So if you're sitting in church thinking you have to obey the law and maybe give a nod to grace when you fail, you are not only not saved but under a curse............
Gal 3:10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, "Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them."
Gal 3:11 Now it is evident that no one is justified before God by the law, for "The righteous shall live by faith."
Yet, in Acts 10 we see the Holy Spirit being poured out on the Gentiles and receiving the Gospel. God clearly decided to include the Gentiles in Christ. If I understand correctly, that's your point?
Paul was a Jew of the tribe of Benjamin not one of the 10 tribes.
ASV Philippians 3:5 circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
And he said that was worthless. It got him NOTHING in regards to pleasing God. It's not about adherence to the Law. It's about what you do with Jesus.
I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
I am not sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
I am not sent just to the lost sheep!
Paul was a Jew of the tribe of Benjamin not one of the 10 tribes.
ASV Philippians 3:5 circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
Dude, Paul was of Benjamin FROM THE NORTHERN KINGDOM.
THIS IS HIS WORD, NOT MINE DUDE.
Maybe you don't know the history, but the FACT of Paul being one of those 7000 is irrefutable, Paul joined the Jews, but he was far from a Jew.
Psalms 80 ~ Speaking of Northern Israel and how Benjamin is ALSO of Ephraim, not Just of Judah.
1Hear us, Shepherd of Israel,
you who lead Joseph like a flock.
You who sit enthroned between the cherubim,
shine forth 2before Ephraim, Benjamin and Manasseh.
Awaken your might;
come and save us.
Paul was one of these 7000 men and he PROVES THIS BEYOND A DOUBT.
Those 7000 reserved have NOTHING TO DO WITH JEWS.
Paul is explaining OVER AND OVER AND OVER that he is of Israel, NOT JUDAH.
Paul is explaining over and over how gentiles are grafted through the void in the ten tribes from the promised betrothal of Hosea 2 SPECIFICALLY OF THE TEN TRIBES, NOT GENTILES.
God's promise to these lost gentiles of the ten tribes, and how Jesus comes offering gentiles a betrothal that makes them become one people with Jews.
declares the Lord. 14“Therefore I am now going to allure her;
I will lead her into the wilderness
and speak tenderly to her.{Jesus to gentiles} 15There I will give her back her vineyards,
and will make the Valley of Achora door of hope.
There she will respond as in the days of her youth,
as in the day she came up out of Egypt.
16“In that day,” declares the Lord,{God to gentiles} “you will call me ‘my husband’;
you will no longer call me ‘my master.’ 17I will remove the names of the Baals from her lips;{Did you stop keeping pagan holy days?} NO, NO, NO
no longer will their names be invoked. 18In that day I will make a covenant for them{God to the gentiles of the lost ten tribes}
with the beasts of the field, the birds in the sky
and the creatures that move along the ground.
Bow and sword and battle
I will abolish from the land,
so that all may lie down in safety. 19I will betroth you to me forever;{Jesus to the ten lost tribes of Ephraim who became not his people/GENTILES}
I will betroth you in righteousness and justice,
in love and compassion. 20I will betroth you in faithfulness, land of darkness{Ephraim's ten lost tribes land, to shine a light on the lost Ephraim}{AGAIN, John sent out into the land of Ephraim/Joseph, to betroth GENTILES to become one with Jews}
21“In that day I will respond,”
declares the Lord—
“I will respond to the skies,
and they will respond to the earth; 22and the earth will respond to the grain,
the new wine and the olive oil,
and they will respond to Jezreel. 23I will plant her for myself in the land; I will show my love to the one I called ‘Not my loved one.’ I will say to those called ‘Not my people, ‘You are my people’;{Gentiles who have joined Jews in Judaism and now have become co Heirs} and they will say, ‘You are my God.’
NOT MY PEOPLE/GENTILES LOST FROM EPHRAIM's TEN LOST TRIBES.
God telling Elijah he had reserved 7000 in Israel in every Generation is only EPHRAIM, Paul IN FACT, is amongst those ten lost tribes and he PROVES THIS BEYOND IN DOUBT.
THE COVENANT ISN'T FOR GENTILES, THE COVENANT IS ONLY FOR Ephraim AND Judah AND TODAY, CHRISTIANS ARE NOT Ephraim OR Judah.
Learn the history, and learn who Paul is speaking about, learn who Paul was, and who all those disciples were, they were not Jews.
They were of the lost house of Israel who were living amongst Jews as one.
Any Gentile who wants to come under the covenant of Jesus must come as Ephraim denouncing all paganism and repenting that they ever had anything to do with any other God.
Gentiles have all the covenant in the world AS LONG AS THEY COME REPENTING FOR CALLING THE TORAH A STRANGE THEN, FOR REJECTING Jerusalem, FOR REJECTING JUDAH, AND FOR REJECTING JUDAISM.
If you stopped keeping holy days and now have accepted the 7 feasts of Christ, the YOU ARE the one grafted into Ephraim, and if YOU have not stopped your paganism, this scripture IS NOT about you. Jesus came to bring a new covenant ONLY for Ephraim and Judah, and thank God that any Gentile can convert as they did in the beginning. Now the gentiles have went back to Paganism, and by this, they are no longer under the covenant of betrothal Jesus brought to betroth Gentile to Jew. You separated yourself from the Marriage?
That is on you.
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