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It is the same thing, since your argument was that a plant must be honored because it was God's creation. All plants are his creations, so why would you feel compelled to honor one by consuming it, and not the other?
All plants are not the same, pot is not a toxic mushroom. I said that these specific plants have been demonized or refined to the point they are not even the same substance anymore.
It is intellectually dishonest to say that because poisen mushrooms exist then therefor pot is the devils lettus.
That is why the true evidence of a fellow believer is the fruits of the spirit because absent that gift there is no way for someone to distinguish gibberish from true toungs.
Depends on your definition of a believer, doesn't it? We're not told to discern the spirits in any other way but this, no man can say that Jesus dwells in the flesh (his), except by the power of the HG. Meaning, no man can say Jesus dwells in them unless He does.
That being said, there is still a 30, a 60 and a 100 fold realm to be walked out, and you will find believers interspersed throughout, some with more of the Spirit manifesting, some with less, but all are "believers". Even the devils (in the 30 fold outer court realm also) believe and tremble, we are told. The goal is to have less in common with one of them by moving on. Peace
I used your own argument. If you find it dishonest, then so be it.
Refined cane sugar is highly addictive and poisen long term as well. You don't see the same focus on refined sugar as you do weed. Its social conditioning, it does not matter what circular reasoning you use you cant compare a poisen mushroom to pot, they are not the same.
You can choose not to smoke it or eat it but to suggest it is sin to another believer is false teaching.
Refined cane sugar is highly addictive and poisen long term as well. You don't see the same focus on refined sugar as you do weed. Its social conditioning, it does not matter what circular reasoning you use you cant compare a poisen mushroom to pot, they are not the same.
You can choose not to smoke it or eat it but to suggest it is sin to another believer is false teaching.
Motive-of-the-heart. Do people eat sugar to get high/alter their consciousness? G-d looks at the motive of the heart. An impure motive is any that does not line up with His perfect will for an individual. The written word tells us what His perfect will is, and is not. It's really not that difficult to discern. Peace
Motive-of-the-heart. Do people eat sugar to get high/alter their consciousness? G-d looks at the motive of the heart. An impure motive is any that does not line up with His perfect will for an individual. The written word tells us what His perfect will is, and is not. It's really not that difficult to discern. Peace
I agree but I don't think pot is an "altered state of consciousness" in the same way heroin is. It is more or less equivalent to drinking a beer or a glass of wine. If you smoke to excess (ie smoke yourself stupid) that is yet another issue. Some may smoke it to relieve stress because they have less faith or because God has chosen not to take there stress away for one reason or another ...
I don't think everyone uses substances for nefarious purposes.
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Refined cane sugar is highly addictive and poisen long term as well. You don't see the same focus on refined sugar as you do weed. Its social conditioning, it does not matter what circular reasoning you use you cant compare a poisen mushroom to pot, they are not the same.
You can choose not to smoke it or eat it but to suggest it is sin to another believer is false teaching.
You can put sugar in your coffee and be perfectly sober minded. Intoxicating yourself with anything goes against the teachings of Jesus to be sober minded, but if you are comfortable doing it anyway, then so be it.
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