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Old 08-11-2017, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Actually, Jesus IS God. He does not tempt, and no--us "Fundamentalists" do not claim that he isn't forgiving.
He died on a cross so we could be forgiven!
I gave you a rep when I meant to press the quote button! Ha!
Did Jesus tell you he was God? Where did you get that idea from?
I am one of those people that really respect direct contact ...rather than hearsay..
also correct grammar . 'we fundamentalists".
I will admit it gets cloudy separating the 2...like an old married couple that complete each other's sentences! Where does one end and the other begin!?
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Absolutely correct. The thought that God would ever tempt someone to sin is preposterous, since sinning only distances us from Him. He wants us to draw close to Him, and would never do anything to cause the opposite to happen. He does, on the other hand, allow trials to come into our lives. It is by learning to rely on Him for strength that we are able to overcome the challenges we experience throughout our lives and ultimately become everything He wants us to become.
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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If God would not tempt someone to sin...what was Abraham and his son all about?
Is the story a metaphor and never happened?
Or was God Himself young in his earthly experience with these humans? A new creation?
So He did tempt them eons ago?
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Old 08-11-2017, 03:57 PM
 
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I gave you a rep when I meant to press the quote button! Ha!
Did Jesus tell you he was God? Where did you get that idea from?
The bible. It's all over the NT. Colossians 1, the 7 "I AM" statements of John, the reaction of the Jews to try to stone him when he said it, his statement in Revelation 1, the fact that he was worshiped in Rev 5 in the same way by the same heavenly host that worshiped God in Rev 4.....

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I am one of those people that really respect direct contact ...rather than hearsay..
also correct grammar . 'we fundamentalists".
I will admit it gets cloudy separating the 2...like an old married couple that complete each other's sentences! Where does one end and the other begin!?
Thankfully, we have the very word of God. In fact, we have direct quotes from Jesus claiming to BE God.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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The bible. It's all over the NT. Colossians 1, the 7 "I AM" statements of John, the reaction of the Jews to try to stone him when he said it, his statement in Revelation 1, the fact that he was worshiped in Rev 5 in the same way by the same heavenly host that worshiped God in Rev 4.....
Thankfully, we have the very word of God. In fact, we have direct quotes from Jesus claiming to BE God.
We also have stories in the Bible of Jesus praying and calling out to the Father.
Perhaps when Jesus made reference to being one with the Father he could have been
meaning something else? As in, a deeper meaning there?
I have often felt one with the Father.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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If God would not tempt someone to sin...what was Abraham and his son all about?
Is the story a metaphor and never happened?
Or was God Himself young in his earthly experience with these humans? A new creation?
So He did tempt them eons ago?
Not a tempt, a test.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Abraham-Isaac.html
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:12 PM
 
Location: USA
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Trying to get someone to kill their child sounds like a "tempt" to me, and a really sick and disturbing one.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:17 PM
 
Location: On the brink of WWIII
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And the difference is what?

There hath no temptation taken hold of you but such as is common to man. But God is faithful; He will not suffer you to be tempted beyond that which ye are able to bear, but with the temptation will also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.


13 Every test that you have experienced is the kind that normally comes to people. But God keeps his promise, and he will not allow you to be tested beyond your power to remain firm; at the time you are put to the test, he will give you the strength to endure it, and so provide you with a way out.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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And the difference is what?

There hath no temptation taken hold of you but such as is common to man. But God is faithful; He will not suffer you to be tempted beyond that which ye are able to bear, but with the temptation will also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.


13 Every test that you have experienced is the kind that normally comes to people. But God keeps his promise, and he will not allow you to be tested beyond your power to remain firm; at the time you are put to the test, he will give you the strength to endure it, and so provide you with a way out.
Tempting to sin vs. testing faith.
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Old 08-11-2017, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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Trying to get someone to kill their child sounds like a "tempt" to me, and a really sick and disturbing one.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Abraham-Isaac.html
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