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Old 01-31-2018, 09:48 AM
 
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I'm a Roman Catholic faithful and I never had anything against any Pope whatsoever. I'm a traditionalist who has always followed Church teachings without ever embracing either sedevacantism or a schismatic position whatsoever. But after watching this video on all that Pope Francis did during 2017, I can no longer defend him and/or his numberless heresies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90DxKFFjp4Q
I'm really beginning to believe that he is indeed the False Prophet of Revelation while our true Pope is still Pope Benedict XVI (as millions of Catholics worldwide have been saying for the last 5 years).
Is there any Catholic on this forum? Or any Christian who has an opinion of Pope Francis and his heresies?
God bless you all.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:38 AM
 
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Well, trying to make people actually THINK isn't ever easy.


Good luck Frank.
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Old 01-31-2018, 11:40 AM
 
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Personally, I'd just suggest you find a good Reformed Baptist church with a pastor that preaches the Bible.
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Old 01-31-2018, 01:39 PM
 
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I'm a Roman Catholic faithful and I never had anything against any Pope whatsoever. I'm a traditionalist who has always followed Church teachings without ever embracing either sedevacantism or a schismatic position whatsoever. But after watching this video on all that Pope Francis did during 2017, I can no longer defend him and/or his numberless heresies:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90DxKFFjp4Q
I'm really beginning to believe that he is indeed the False Prophet of Revelation while our true Pope is still Pope Benedict XVI (as millions of Catholics worldwide have been saying for the last 5 years).
Is there any Catholic on this forum? Or any Christian who has an opinion of Pope Francis and his heresies?
God bless you all.
QUESTION: What "heresy" are you claiming he follows?
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Old 01-31-2018, 03:39 PM
 
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QUESTION: What "heresy" are you claiming he follows?
Probably Christianity (Just not the olde tyme version: exasperating ignorance, witch burning, science hating, with a splash of hell fire & damnation for almost anything that moves). LOL People think Benedict XVI was ultra conservative. He was for about two years. Then he started endorsing folks like Origen, Julian of Norwich, John Scotus Eriugena, etc. All former -- according to the olde tyme Catholics -- heretics who believed in Universal reconciliation. LOL What a HUGE laugh on the conservative Catholics!!!!

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Old 01-31-2018, 04:17 PM
 
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I don`t Know of ideas which the Pope is a false prophet , but His does blast the US President which would be legalism as Christians are not called to judge
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Old 01-31-2018, 05:28 PM
 
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..Jorge Mario Bergoglio....read about the part he played in the dirty wars of argentina, a real piece of human garbage..
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Old 01-31-2018, 08:08 PM
 
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..Jorge Mario Bergoglio....read about the part he played in the dirty wars of argentina, a real piece of human garbage..
Absolutely true. This man is also a criminal as he orchestrated the kidnapping of two Jesuit priests who were under his authority during the Dirty War in Argentina. In fact Bergoglio’s harshest critics come from within the Catholic Church itself, including priests and lay workers who say he handed the two men over to the torturers as part of a collaborative effort to “cleanse” the Church of “leftists.” One of them, a Jesuit priest, Orlando Yorio, was abducted along with another priest after ignoring a warning from Bergoglio, then head of the Jesuit order in Argentina, to stop their work in a Buenos Aires slum district. During the first trial of leaders of the military junta in 1985, Yorio declared,
“I am sure that he himself gave over the list with our names to the Navy.”
The two were taken to the notorious Navy School of Mechanics (ESMA) torture center and held for over five months before being drugged and dumped in a town outside the city.
Bergoglio was ideologically predisposed to backing the mass political killings unleashed by the junta. In the early 1970s, he was associated with the right-wing Peronist Guardia de Hierro (Iron Guard), whose cadre—together with elements of the Peronist trade union bureaucracy—were employed in the death squads known as the Triple A (Argentine Anti-Communist Alliance), which carried out a campaign of extermination against left-wing opponents of the military before the junta even took power. Adm. Emilio Massera, the chief of the Navy and the leading ideologue of the junta, also employed these elements, particularly in the disposal of the personal property of the “disappeared.”
Yorio, who died in 2000, charged that Bergoglio “had communications with Admiral Massera, and had informed him that I was the chief of the guerrillas.”
The junta viewed the most minimal expression of opposition to the existing social order or sympathy for the oppressed as “terrorism.” The other priest who was abducted, Francisco Jalics, recounted in a book that Bergoglio had promised them he would tell the military that they were not terrorists. He wrote, “From subsequent statements by an official and 30 documents that I was able to access later, we were able to prove, without any room for doubt, that this man did not keep his promise, but that, on the contrary, he presented a false denunciation to the military.”
Bergoglio declined to appear at the first trial of the junta as well as at subsequent proceedings to which he was summoned. In 2010, when he finally did submit to questioning, lawyers for the victims found him to be “evasive” and “lying.”
Bergoglio claimed that he learned only after the end of the dictatorship of the junta’s practice of stealing the babies of disappeared mothers, who were abducted, held until giving birth and then executed, with their children given to military or police families. This lie was exposed by people who had gone to him for help in finding missing relatives.
The collaboration with the junta was not a mere personal failing of Bergoglio, but rather the policy of the Church hierarchy, which backed the military’s aims and methods. The Argentine journalist Horacio Verbitsky exposed Bergoglio’s attempted cover-up for this systemic complicity in a book that Bergoglio authored, which edited out compromising sentences from a memorandum recording a meeting between the Church leadership and the junta in November 1976, eight months after the military coup.
The excised statement included the pledge that the Church “in no way intends to take a critical position toward the action of the government,” as its “failure would lead, with great probability, to Marxism.” It declared the Catholic Church’s “understanding, adherence and acceptance” in relation to the so-called “Proceso” that unleashed a reign of terror against Argentine working people.
This support was by no means platonic. The junta’s detention and torture centers were assigned priests, whose job it was, not to minister to those suffering torture and death, but to help the torturers and killers overcome any pangs of conscience. Using such biblical parables as “separating the wheat from the chafe,” they assured those operating the so-called “death flights,” in which political prisoners were drugged, stripped naked, bundled onto airplanes and thrown into the sea, that they were doing “God’s work.” Others participated in the torture sessions and tried to use the rite of confession to extract information of use to the torturers.
This collaboration was supported from the Vatican on down. In 1981, on the eve of Argentina’s war with Britain over the Malvinas (Falkland) Islands, Pope John Paul II flew to Buenos Aires, appearing with the junta and kissing its then-chief, Gen. Leopoldo Galtieri, while saying not a word about the tens of thousands who had been kidnapped, tortured and murdered.
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Old 01-31-2018, 08:41 PM
 
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QUESTION: What "heresy" are you claiming he follows?
The gravest so far was Amoris laetitia (The Joy of Love), a post-synodal apostolic exhortation by Pope Francis addressing the pastoral care of families. What caused a scandal was Chapter 8 of the exhortation, which had officially changed the Catholic Church's sacramental discipline concerning access to the sacraments of Reconciliation and the Eucharist for divorced couples who have civilly remarried.
After that, a group of 40 conservative Catholic clergy and lay scholars signed and presented to Pope Francis a 25-page document entitled "Correctio filialis de haeresibus propagatis" (A Filial Correction Concerning the Propagation of Heresies). The document states that certain passages from Amoris laetitia and other "words, deeds, and omissions" of Pope Francis "are serving to propagate heresies". The document had 62 signatories when it was made public in September after the group received no reply. The most prominent signatories were Bishop Bernard Fellay; Ettore Gotti Tedeschi, former president of the Vatican bank; and Joseph Shaw, professor of philosophy at Oxford University.

Now the Catholic Church holds that marriage is a sacrament creating an indissoluble union between one man and one woman. While the Catholic Church allows for the possibility of separation from a marriage in certain cases, it does not recognize the validity of a subsequent marriage unless a declaration of nullity has been obtained regarding the first marriage or the first spouse is deceased. Any sexual act outside of marriage is considered a grave sin, and if the subjective elements of full knowledge and deliberate consent are present in an individual committing such an act, the individual would be deemed to have committed a mortal sin and would be deprived of access to Holy Communion until they have received sacramental absolution.

Canon law
The 1917 Code of Canon Law stated, "Bigamists, that is, those who attempt another marriage-even if only a so-called civil marriage-while the first conjugal bond still exists, are ipso facto notorious; and if they scorn the warning of their Ordinary and persist in this illicit cohabitation, they are to be excommunicated."

Here is Chapter 8 of Amoris Laetitia. I know it's lengthy but worth reading as it is truly the first scandalous and anti-Catholic papal document ever written in the entire history of the Church.

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Amoris Laetitia, chapter 8 – Accompanying, discerning and integrating weakness


291.  The Synod Fathers stated that, although the Church realizes that any breach of the marriage bond “is against the will of God”, she is also “conscious of the frailty of many of her children”.311 Illumined by the gaze of Jesus Christ, “she turns with love to those who participate in her life in an incomplete manner, recognizing that the grace of God works also in their lives by giving them the courage to do good, to care for one another in love and to be of service to the community in which they live and work”.

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Old 02-01-2018, 01:34 AM
 
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I don't believe for one minute the OP is a Catholic.
The rhetoric and terminology used is almost entirely Evangelical or SDA in nature.
Every Pope is a "False Prophet" or Antichrist to these groups.
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