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View Poll Results: What came first?
Conversion 6 100.00%
Regeneration 0 0%
Voters: 6. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-09-2018, 07:56 PM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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What came first? Conversion or regeneration?
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Old 03-09-2018, 08:07 PM
 
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Conversion, usually followed by degeneration.
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Old 03-09-2018, 09:39 PM
 
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Inversion

The chicken came before the egg (except on Thursdays)
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Old 03-09-2018, 09:50 PM
 
Location: El Paso, TX
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What came first? Conversion or regeneration?
While Calvinism teaches that regeneration precedes faith, the Bible says that regeneration or being born again is the result of faith in Christ Jesus. By grace you have been saved through faith (Ephesians 2:8).
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:13 PM
 
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While Calvinism teaches that regeneration precedes faith, the Bible says that regeneration or being born again is the result of faith in Christ Jesus. By grace you have been saved through faith (Ephesians 2:8).
Most Calvinists I've met are true degenerates (in my opinion). Which is why I'm serious about my response. This is not a topic I take lightly.
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Panama City, FL
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Conversion, usually followed by degeneration.
Honestly, I cannot largely disagree with you about this.
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:30 PM
 
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Though I have no idea what you all are talking about, I might just vote for Regeneration because it sounds cooler. Conversion just sounds like changing from one thing to another, but regeneration sounds like growing new arms and limbs and stuff. LOL
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:38 PM
 
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Oh, okay. I get it. It's a new form of labelling for Christians. Nice. So where's the dividing line? And who gets to decide who is in which category? When someone becomes "holy", do they move up some imaginary ladder closer to God? I really don't need an answer here (wink).

That might be along the lines of works and stuff, but Jesus made it clear that believing in him will allow one to enter into the "kingdom of heaven", even with the faith of a mustard seed. Go and argue with that. It's simple black and white, not an increasing scale until one becomes "holy enough" to make it through.
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:44 PM
 
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Oh, okay. I get it. It's a new form of labelling for Christians. Nice. So where's the dividing line? And who gets to decide who is in which category? When someone becomes "holy", do they move up some imaginary ladder closer to God? I really don't need an answer here (wink).

This might be along the lines of works and stuff, but Jesus made it clear that believing in him will allow them to enter into the "kingdom of heaven". Even with the faith of a mustard seed. Go and argue with that.
It's the conservatives (ie. Calvinists) who get to make the rules.
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Old 03-09-2018, 10:50 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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If your righteousness does not exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees, you will in no way enter into the Kingdom of heaven. Most of those who profess to be Christians have only entered a basic level of understanding (conversion) but are nowhere close to being (regenerated) Holy.

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