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Old 03-30-2018, 07:32 AM
 
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It is good Friday my Christian brothers and sisters!

Scalfari says to the Pope, "Your Holiness, in our previous meeting you told me that our species will disappear in a certain moment and that God, still out of his creative force, will create new species. You have never spoken to me about the souls who died in sin and will go to hell to suffer it for eternity. You have however spoken to me of good souls, admitted to the contemplation of God. But what about bad souls? Where are they punished?"

Pope Francis says, "They are not punished, those who repent obtain the forgiveness of God and enter the rank of souls who contemplate him, but those who do not repent and cannot therefore be forgiven disappear. There is no hell, there is the disappearance of sinful souls."


note: at the time of this writng, Vatican says it may be a misquote but refuses to disavow

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael...-there-no-hell

(Is there any doubt we are experiencing the great falling away of the faith?)

1 Timothy 4:1

Now the Spirit explicitly says that in the later times some will desert the faith and occupy themselves with deceiving spirits and demonic teachings,

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Old 03-30-2018, 07:52 AM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Belief in hell is ridiculous.
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Old 03-30-2018, 08:14 AM
 
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Belief in hell is ridiculous.
FEAR of hell is even more ridiculous...

TEACHING OTHERS TO BELIEVE OR FEAR HELL is irresponsible.
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Old 03-30-2018, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Born in L.A. - NYC is Second Home - Rustbelt is Home Base
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He sounds like an atheist? Religion is all man-made. It evolves over time to humans whim's and fancies. Down the road, one day we may have a lesbian Pope! And why not, religion is what you make of it.
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Old 03-30-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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Odd that Jesus spoke more about hell than heaven. We've covered this many times before, it is clearly eternal torment and being alone in blackness with the demons hell was built for.

We are surely headed towards one world religion and a global monetary system. Necessary for the coming Anti-Christ.
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Old 03-30-2018, 10:58 AM
 
Location: Free State of Texas
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If there is no hell...what did Christ die on the cross to save us from?

Isaiah 53

The Suffering Servant

53 Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
And like a root out of parched ground;
He has no stately form or majesty
That we should look upon Him,
Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.
3 He was despised and forsaken of men,
A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
And like one from whom men hide their face
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
4 Surely our griefs He Himself bore,
And our sorrows He carried;
Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.
6 All of us like sheep have gone astray,
Each of us has turned to his own way;
But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all
To fall on Him.
7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He did not open His mouth;
Like a lamb that is led to slaughter,
And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers,
So He did not open His mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away;
And as for His generation, who considered
That He was cut off out of the land of the living
For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due?
9 His grave was assigned with wicked men,
Yet He was with a rich man in His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.
10 But the Lord was pleased
To crush Him, putting Him to grief;
If He would render Himself as a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring,
He will prolong His days,
And the good pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand.
11 As a result of the anguish of His soul,
He will see it and be satisfied;
By His knowledge the Righteous One,
My Servant, will justify the many,
As He will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,
And He will divide the booty with the strong;
Because He poured out Himself to death,
And was numbered with the transgressors;
Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,
And interceded for the transgressors.
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:44 AM
 
Location: New England
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Originally Posted by jimmiej View Post
If there is no hell...what did Christ die on the cross to save us from?

Isaiah 53

The Suffering Servant

53 Who has believed our message?
And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?
2 For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot,
And like a root out of parched ground;
He has no stately form or majesty
That we should look upon Him,
Nor appearance that we should be attracted to Him.
3 He was despised and forsaken of men,
A man of sorrows and acquainted with grief;
And like one from whom men hide their face
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.
4 Surely our griefs He Himself bore,
And our sorrows He carried;
Yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten of God, and afflicted.
5 But He was pierced through for our transgressions,
He was crushed for our iniquities;
The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him,
And by His scourging we are healed.
6 All of us like sheep have gone astray,
Each of us has turned to his own way;
But the Lord has caused the iniquity of us all
To fall on Him.
7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He did not open His mouth;
Like a lamb that is led to slaughter,
And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers,
So He did not open His mouth.
8 By oppression and judgment He was taken away;
And as for His generation, who considered
That He was cut off out of the land of the living
For the transgression of my people, to whom the stroke was due?
9 His grave was assigned with wicked men,
Yet He was with a rich man in His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was there any deceit in His mouth.
10 But the Lord was pleased
To crush Him, putting Him to grief;
If He would render Himself as a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring,
He will prolong His days,
And the good pleasure of the Lord will prosper in His hand.
11 As a result of the anguish of His soul,
He will see it and be satisfied;
By His knowledge the Righteous One,
My Servant, will justify the many,
As He will bear their iniquities.
12 Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,
And He will divide the booty with the strong;
Because He poured out Himself to death,
And was numbered with the transgressors;
Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,
And interceded for the transgressors.

Ourselves going astray
. Is not that obvious to you after reading that chapter?. We all like sheep have gone astray walking like we are not sons of God, what Jesus Christ did was deal with everything that created that scenario so that we could walk like sons of God again. In other words he fixed the problem and one by one all are coming to their senses and returning to their former state, not in your time, not in three score ten years, but in his time(if there is such a thing as time).
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Middle America
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The Pope and all the Pope-people are silly folk.
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Old 03-30-2018, 11:56 AM
 
Location: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Except for the hell on earth.
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:07 PM
 
Location: USA
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Belief in hell is ridiculous.
Agree. But then again, it’s no more ridiculous than the belief in Heaven or any other kind of afterlife.

We humans believe all kinds of ridiculous stuff because it makes us feel better.
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