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And read the rest of Romans. Heck, read the rest of the chapter. The first 11 verses are interesting. Things like how we are saved from the wrath off God by him dying. Do you believe that? Do you believe God is wrathful?
How about chapter 4? Where it says Abraham was righteous by faith. Do you believe that? Or will you believe the Universalist story that God simply declares all saved?
How about chapter 9 where it says God hates Esau? That he actually hated someone?
Or chapter 10 where it says that one must believe to be saved? That he must actually confess Jesus? That they can't even do that if the Gospel isn't preached to them?
Can you reconcile this universalist nonsense with that?
I had zero knowledge of those chapters.nYou missed chapter 11
31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!
34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor?
35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again?
36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.
Please note one verse ripped out of context
"for from Him ta pante comes, through Him ta pante exists and in Him ta pante ends...
Ta pante= the all=
"from Him the all comes, through Him the all exists, and in Him the all ends.."
I had zero knowledge of those chapters.nYou missed chapter 11
Just an honest suggestion to anyone that considers themselves a student of the Bible. Read the entire book of Romans in one sitting. It'll take 45 minutes to an hour. It's really interesting to read it all at one time and really understand the line of thought Paul had when he wrote that. Don't take one verse out of context and expect it to stand on its own.
Just an honest suggestion to anyone that considers themselves a student of the Bible. Read the entire book of Romans in one sitting. It'll take 45 minutes to an hour. It's really interesting to read it all at one time and really understand the line of thought Paul had when he wrote that. Don't take one verse out of context and expect it to stand on its own.
Better yet, friend, take 50 years and find out what you missed!
Just an honest suggestion to anyone that considers themselves a student of the Bible. Read the entire book of Romans in one sitting. It'll take 45 minutes to an hour. It's really interesting to read it all at one time and really understand the line of thought Paul had when he wrote that. Don't take one verse out of context and expect it to stand on its own.
Read 24 Chapters of the book of Acts and then get back to me where you see any of the the Apostles had preached Salvation from eternal hell.... Do you not find it strange to say the least that they left such an important part of their commission from Jesus to preach the good news to the whole of creation?. No aha moment whatsoever ????
The problem is that the same book you quote that from clearly says that it's through faith in Jesus that we are saved. nowhere else in that book is the notion of universal salvation. To suggest it is completely rips that verse out of context.
Salvation is all of God as far as i am concerned, even though i see it is and "now" experience it, it is his light that brought me to the knowledge of this truth, a truth once you've seen you can't deny. The only reason any of us are seemingly lost or act lost is because we lost our true identity.
Salvation is all of God as far as i am concerned, even though i see it is and "now" experience it, it is his light that brought me to the knowledge of this truth, a truth once you've seen you can't deny. The only reason any of us are seemingly lost or act lost is because we lost our true identity.
Not the mass in Adam 1-1, and certainly not the mass-1 in the Saviour of the whole world, A.K.A. the Last Adam!
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