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Old 07-28-2018, 02:44 PM
 
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Heinous, heathen monster......

Even if you were convinced you are right, why would you call anyones god such names when you know people have placed their faith in that god?
Do you have a problem with people speaking the truth? Jesus said it sets people free. That is, those who will receive it.

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This the problem with people like you who talk about love, but yet routinely act in an arrogant and insulting manner.
Calling a monster a monster is not insulting anyone. Since that monster doesn't even exist. It's calling a spade a spade. As opposed to watering down the truth.

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It is not just you, but all universalists, and not just sometimes, but all the time.
Clearly you are not speaking objectively. Also see this:

https://www.gotquestions.org/false-witness.html

https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-lying-sin.html

https://www.gotquestions.org/white-lies.html

https://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-f...cusations.html


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That is how I know beyond any shadow of a doubt that what you are selling is fake.

By their fruits you shall know them (false teachers). It is your own mouth that betrays you.
The evidence in this post points back at you.

As the saying goes, when you point a finger at others, 3 point back at you.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/b...nting-back-you

As for the fruits of hell, look at the Inquisitions, Crusades, burning of opposers & their writings, who fills up psych wards & this:

http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/hells_fruit.html
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Old 07-28-2018, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Do you have a problem with people speaking the truth? Jesus said it sets people free. That is, those who will receive it.
No, I have a problem with you insulting the God people love and trust. Apparently you see nothing wrong with it, which is why you doubled down.

Jesus said that we will recognize false teachers by their fruit, and I, the fruit inspector, sees rotten fruit in your tree.

Fruit status: REJECTED! Go sell it to someone else.
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Old 07-28-2018, 02:52 PM
 
Location: Southwestern, USA, now.
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Hell is biblical ... so is a "command" to dash disobedient children to death against stones. This is why we must not say that the bible is the inerrant, inspired WORD of God. Jesus Christ is the living Word. Not everything in the 66 books is from God. That's it. And Finn knows this is what we mean.
Thank you, Rain...and you are not arrogant by pointing this out!
Psalm 137:9

It is an ignorant person (not stupid, not low IQ, not unkind, not unfunny, not uncute) that can not
differentiate verses as off the wall vs sane.


It is an insult to me how people view my Father as a punitive, murderer in the name of fairness and some sort of twisted justice...a Holy Spiritual Being that is Pure Love and Light with no room for darkness in Him.
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Old 07-28-2018, 02:52 PM
 
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So, why do you say God is merciful?
The Bible tells me so.

For God has bound up all in disobedience, that He may show mercy to all. (Rom.11:32)

For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. (Romans 5:19)
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Old 07-28-2018, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Thank you, Rain...and you are not arrogant by pointing this out!
Psalm 137:9

It is an ignorant person (not stupid, not low IQ, not unkind, not unfunny, not uncute) that can not
differentiate verses as off the wall vs sane.
Psalm 137:9 is not a command to do anything, it is a prophecy. I won't call you (or Rain) ignorant, I will just kindly point out the fact that you have misunderstood the meaning of the verse.

People often refer to this verse when they WANT to portray God as the bad guy. Unfortunately it does not say what you thought it said.

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Old 07-28-2018, 03:01 PM
 
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The Bible tells me so.

For God has bound up all in disobedience, that He may show mercy to all. (Rom.11:32)
What would happened if He didn't show mercy?
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Old 07-28-2018, 03:02 PM
 
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No, I have a problem with you insulting the God people love and trust.
Do you suppose calling Love Omnipotent an eternal torturing monster does not create a "problem" (whatever that is supposed to mean) for the "God people love and trust", those "people" being Christians who have a hope or belief in biblical universalism?

What was Jesus' attitude to those who blasphemed & sinned against Him:

Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. (Lk.23:34a)

And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven (Lk.12:10a)

Speaking of fruit, is that the attitude you are showing in this thread. (Rhetorical question).

Sometimes when you have a "problem" with someone you need to take it to the Lord in prayer & get it resolved.
Or get delivered from it.

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Old 07-28-2018, 03:06 PM
 
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What would happened if He didn't show mercy?

because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment. (Js. 2:13)
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Old 07-28-2018, 03:07 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Do you suppose calling Love Omnipotent an eternal torturing monster does not create a "problem" (whatever that is supposed to mean) for the "God people love and trust", those "people" being Christians who have a hope or belief in biblical universalism?
Feel free to call God anything you want. Just get the hate out of your system.
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Old 07-28-2018, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Florida
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because judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment. (Js. 2:13)
You are not answering the question.

What would happened to you if He didn't show mercy?
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